2020 Ford F350 - XLT or Lariat / options guidance?

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2020 Ford F350 - XLT or Lariat / options guidance?

Hi all

First time pickup buyer. We will custom order a 2020 Ford F350 - XLT or Lariat
A Hallmark pop up camper will be in it 99.999 % of the time. Currently learning about what options / packages we want.

A few questions to help guide me…

Do I care about Fog Lamps? (does anyone ever use them?)

Do we care about Pedals: ­ Power Adjustable…?
My wife and I share driving when going camping.
Do the driver memories recall the Power Pedals?

Do we need to be Lariat to get power seats and power seat memories? I can’t figure this out.

I didn’t see heated and cooled seats listed anywhere on Lariat specs…. do we need to go higher to get heated and cooled seats? :-(

Do we want to get the 4.3 Electronic Locking Axle?
I believe it is much better for climbing mountains with the 2,500+ truck camper on the back, plus cargo…?

If we move to the midwest (a possibility) … would we want the remote start option, so we can warm up the F350 before getting in it?

How hard is it to wire in external lights, light bars, etc to the Ford optional Outfitter Switches?

with the vehicle (below) configured as we like, Ford offers either LT275/70R x 18E BSW A/T 4X4 tires

or for an extra $290, I could get LT275/70R x 18E OWL A/T tires.
what tires should i get?
I would MUCH rather have the tires come from Ford, from the start, and not have to change them out, and sell the stock tires.

By the way - we always use our cell phones for Navigation (Waze or Google Nav) so we have no use for a built in NAV. Any way to somehow NOT get it, to save $?

On our 8 foot bed, with a 9.5 foot Hallmark - the Ford Reverse Sensing System - will it work with 18” overhang of Hallmark, and also the optional Hallmark Storage bins & rear bumper?

* * * * * For what it is worth - this is the type of pickup + options we are looking at: * * *

F-350 - 2020. Custom ordered.
Crew Cab (4 real doors, most space)
6.2L gas
176” Wheelbase (max)
8 foot bed.
4x4
Single Rear Wheel (SRW)

4.3 Electronic Locking Axle (I believe it is much better for climbing mountains with the 2,500+ truck camper on the back, plus cargo)

FX4 Off Road Package (comes with Skid Plates :­ Transfer Case and Fuel Tank)

Snow Plow / Camper Package.

11,400 GVWR package (or whatever is max GVWR)

Rear Window - privacy glass.

Medium Duty Battery (a second battery)

Alternator ­ Extra Extra Heavy­Duty

LED Roof Marker/Clearance Lamps

Front 40/20/40 Split Bench Seats (not front console) so driver can exit passenger side if need be. (this is important to us with our current narrow driveway)

Inflatable Rear Outboard Safety Belts (Crew Cab®) - for our daughter.

Cruise Control

Power Equipment ­ Power Door Locks and Windows
Steering Wheel ­ Audio Controls
Tilt/Telescoping Steering Wheel

48 Gallon Fuel Tank – 176" Wheelbase
Integrated Trailer Brake Controller
Trailer Hitch Receiver – 2.5" Built Ford Tough® Trailer Hitch Receiver (SRW)

Hill descent would be very nice. A part of tow package I believe.

stuff John REALLY wants:

Adaptive Cruise Control (Lariat I think? Unsure)

Platform Running Boards (best if Ford does them. Less hassle, and not “modified” $445 2019.)

SYNC® 3 for Apple Car Play

have been advised to get:
Upfitter Switches $165 in 2019

Thanks!

John

 

[Optimistic Paranoid]

As for the 4x4, do they still offer a choice between a dash board switch and a floor stick? The floor stick option allows you to leave the front (manual) hubs unlocked and shift down to 4 Low, which essentially gives you 2 wheel drive low, which can be an advantage sometimes.

As for fog lights, I suppose they are handy if you HAVE to drive in bad weather. Personally, I prefer to get off the road and wait for better conditions. One of the perqs of being retired.

 

[Happyjax]

LA,

I have a 2018 XLT.

I have heated and powered seats but they are not as adjustable as the Lariat. I think the cooled seats are in a package on the Lariat.

Mine came with the adjustable pedals. They can be useful for folks with short legs or those who prefer to be back from the steering wheel .

I have upfitters and you will want them if you decide to add light bars or other powered items.

The remote start is a life saver but I have the one where you still need the key to drive it. A bit more secure in my opinion. I'm not much for push button driving.....lol

Mine came with the snow plow option which gave me the heavy duty alternator and medium battery. A good thing in my opinion.

i wish mine had the camper package but I bought off the lot. The 350 already has the extra spring and lots of payload which you will need for that long Hallmark.....nice choice

I have wondered whether the split bench would have been better over the console. That looks to be the best based on your needs

Gear heads will have to give advice on the axles and things. I'm still getting used to the 4wd as it doesn't like turning if there is any traction...... Weird feeling......

Good luck with your purchase!

 

[klahanie]

2020 Ford F350 - XLT or Lariat / options guidance?


How hard is it to wire in external lights, light bars, etc to the Ford optional Outfitter Switches?
Not hard. The switches are there to make it easier.

with the vehicle (below) configured as we like, Ford offers either LT275/70R x 18E BSW A/T 4X4 tires
or for an extra $290, I could get LT275/70R x 18E OWL A/T tires.
BSW = Black Sidewall (Lettering)
OWL = Outerwall White Lettering

Have you decided on which gas engine size ?

 

[ardvark]

Man, I think "what to buy" choices often have much more to do with "wants" than "have-to-haves". I have a 2012 XLT Super Cab. Having worked as a tech for decades, add-on electronics just mean trouble so my truck is pretty basic. Electric windows and mirrors for sure, driver's seat, cruise, good radio, but no nav.

I do have both the plow and camper package, but have often wondered about having the plow since there is no way around the fact my truck is a rough rider and will bounce steer when it is not loaded. We do not keep our camper on the truck as it has to work much of the time. Having the camper on the back improves the ride immensely. I have had fog lights on my last three trucks, but never used them once. The pedal adjuster, oh yeah, never use it and forgot we have it, but my wife is 5"10" and I am 6' so neither of us is what you would call short.

The 4.3 rear end is an excellent choice in my book, although I think it matters more traveling in the West than in the SE where we live and camp more often. When we are out West, it would have been nice. Grades in Tennessee are not that long and not as steep. The 6.2 does fine, but more grunt never has a downside in my book Don't like TOW/Haul, too darn aggressive in my book, but do shift manually using the selector when out West locking out 5th and 6th (again preference, transmission hunting drives me nuts).

Haven't added anything to the truck so no need for upfitter switches.

Our truck did fine with our Hallmark UTE and does just as well with our new NorthStar Laredo. I replaced the bump stops with Sumos and that eliminated any squat and I upgraded the shocks to Fox.

Overall I would encourage to buy what YOU want because in the overall scheme of things a few hundred dollars doesn't add that much to the final ticket on these trucks. I did find with the tires that having them "road force" balanced made an incredible improvement in the quality of the ride which the dealer's service department could not match.

My two cents. Happy hunting!!

 

[Machinebuilder]

IMHO, You get from the factory stuff that is not easy to do afterward, or the aftermarket is not as good

$290 for OWL tires...........are white letters in the sidewalls worth that?

Cruise power windows etc, If you're getting an XLT or Lariat its part of the package.

I use my Fog lights a lot, from the factory they are aimed WAY to low. The roads I drive daily are winding roads and being able to see to the side is important to me.

I would make sure I got the trailer brake controller, its much better than aftermarket.

I would probably get the gooseneck / 5th wheel hitch prep option. again easier now than later.

The floor mounted transfer case shifter is available ......but only on a VERY base model, almost every package moves you to the dash switch. You can actually get one with manual windows and mirrors, but good luck finding one.

Hill descent is part of the FX4 package, not the trailer tow package, Ive never had it so I'm unsure of its usefulness (Very slow speed only)



I would do a carpet delete, (I also would get an XL for vinyl seats), I like being able to hose the mud etc out. Carpet will get nasty.

I am not sure about the dual batterys and Extra Extra heavy duty alternator, How much power are you using from the truck?

I would get the upfitter switches, even if you don't have current plans to use them its more work later to add a switch.

 

[Ace!]

I would always purchase the locking differential and the lowest gears avaialble, so 4.30 electronic locking differential is a no-brainer for me. Upfitter switches are good too. They look nicer than some of the aftermarket options. The wiring is only slightly easier.

 

[smlobx]

I have a 2016 F-350 srw and a 8.5’ Hallmark Everest. There are changes to the F-350 starting in 2017 so bear that in mind with my responses...

2020 Ford F350 - XLT or Lariat / options guidance?


Do I care about Fog Lamps? (does anyone ever use them?) YES- use them all the time. The standard Ford headlights are not the best. We have added the Baja Designs S8 driv9ng lights that fit into our grill like is shown on their website. They are expensive but literally turn night into day...
https://www.bajadesigns.com/products/s8-LED-Light-Bars.asp


Do we care about Pedals: ­ Power Adjustable…? NO opinion..

Do we need to be Lariat to get power seats and power seat memories? I can’t figure this out. - I have the Lariat and like the seats

I didn’t see heated and cooled seats listed anywhere on Lariat specs…. do we need to go higher to get heated and cooled seats? :-( I do not have cooled seats. Might have to be a higher trim level

Do we want to get the 4.3 Electronic Locking Axle? YES this is a must.

If we move to the midwest (a possibility) … would we want the remote start option, so we can warm up the F350 before getting in it? - I don’t have it but can see where it would be nice.

How hard is it to wire in external lights, light bars, etc to the Ford optional Outfitter Switches?- The wires coming from the switches are short so it is a challenge but worth it since the switches are integrated.


...or for an extra $290, I could get LT275/70R x 18E OWL A/T tires. YES get the A/T tires from the factory.

By the way - we always use our cell phones for Navigation (Waze or Google Nav) so we have no use for a built in NAV. Any way to somehow NOT get it, to save $? Not that I know of.

On our 8 foot bed, with a 9.5 foot Hallmark - the Ford Reverse Sensing System - will it work with 18” overhang of Hallmark, and also the optional Hallmark Storage bins & rear bumper? I purchased an OEM camera and attached it to my camper which works great. We just plug in the one on the tailgate when we take it off and plug this one back in after we load the camper.

* * * * * For what it is worth - this is the type of pickup + options we are looking at: * * *

stuff John REALLY wants:

Platform Running Boards (best if Ford does them. Less hassle, and not “modified” $445 2019.)
 I would actually reccomend against getting the factory running boards. Since our wheel bases are so long I think that anything that hangs down is more prone to getting caught on stumps or rocks than in most shorter vehicles.
We got, and have been very happy with Amp Research Power steps
https://www.amp-research.com/amp-research-76235-01a-powerstep
We bought them from a local truck accessory place that installed them for us. One of the benefits besides being out of the way when traveling is that the steps actually extend further down than the OEM steps and are wider making it easier to get into the truck.

John

I would not reccomend getting the plow package as the front springs will be much stiffer and virtually all the weigh of your camper will be on the rear axle. The camper package is basically a rear sway bar which is a good thing to have with a camper.
Let us know if you have any other questions and welcome to the family!

 

[Advmoto18]

Like Eddie (above post)...I have a 2016 F-350 Lariat, however, I have the 6.5' bed with a 2015 FWC Hawk.

While I'm not 100% sure about the 2020, my first question would be why the F-350 v F-250? Both have the near identical payloads for the same sub-model. However, if you spend any time off-road, and like to venture to places like Point Sublime on the North Rim of the GC, you should consider the F-250. The F-250 uses only 2" blocks between the axle and leaf spring package; the F-350 uses 4" blocks. While this doesn't seem like a big deal, and it isn't on tarmac, in off-chamber situations, the 4" blocks can greatly contribute to axle wrap and wheel hop, especially with the rear locker engaged. May not seem like a big deal, but, it can be given the terrain. And I'm not talking about so called "jeep trails". Just rough single track leading to some of the most scenic vistas one can encounter in North America.

Best thing to do is go back to the dealer, sit down with the salesman and go through Ford's "upfitter manual". This is where you will find the features that can make your truck truly outstanding when you drive it away after signing the paperwork.

My wish list of options will likely vary from yours.

Snow package....as Eddie said...NO! You will want to install Bilstein's front leveling kit. It includes no coils. You will have to add new shocks with the kit and there are some plush ones. This feature alone will dramatically improve the "felt" ride up front. So much so, you will be looking for new leaf packs for the rear that eliminate the blocks altogether. If that is in your dreams, then the F-350 is certainly a worthy consideration.

Factory rear sway bar is pretty cheesy. I left that off my truck and installed the Hellwig Big Wig once I got home. It's massive and does the job with the camper in the bed fully loaded for a long trip.

I didn't option anything up front since I was planning to (add installed) a Trail Ready winch bumper and a Warn 16.5Ti winch. this winch has pulled my rig through 3' snow banks with ease.

I believe remote start is a standard feature on the Lariat, my sub-model. Very nice to have on cold mornings to warm the motor/oil up without getting out of the camper.

Very easy to wire add-on light up front. Wires terminate on the engine side of the firewall for the upfitter switches. But a bear to get to!

Definitely go with the 18" wheels. Not the 20"s! I have 20s and always asking if someone will swap their 18s for my 20s when at Lowes or Home Depot. 18s have taller sidewalls enhancing the ride when aired down.

Ford navigation $ucks. No other way to say it. Garmin units are just a baby step better than Ford's; and that isn't saying much. Sad that we can't get Nav systems and maps like Simrad's maritime GPS units I use. Garmin maritime isn't very good either.

I like using a GPS/Nav system that is cellular based, but allows me to download detailed maps for use when offline and no land based comms.

Google Maps has a download, off-line option. But I prefer two fee based Nav apps as they update more often and offer more detail; important IMO when in the back country. Even so, do not follow any Nav app without good situational awareness (SA). Just be sure to place your iPhone in Airplane mode when no comm and using for Nav with downloaded maps.

Fun spec'ing out your very own new truck!!!

 

[Optimistic Paranoid]

As far as the snow plow package is concerned, it MIGHT be a good idea if you intend to upgrade to a better (heavier) aftermarket bumper like the ones that Buckstop makes. Or if you intend to mount a front trailer hitch and cargo rack. But you can always just add an aftermarket upgrade like Timbrens in that case, instead.

Otherwise, I agree that it's not a good idea.

 

[Advmoto18]

As far as the snow plow package is concerned, it MIGHT be a good idea if you intend to upgrade to a better (heavier) aftermarket bumper like the ones that Buckstop makes. Or if you intend to mount a front trailer hitch and cargo rack. But you can always just add an aftermarket upgrade like Timbrens in that case, instead.

Otherwise, I agree that it's not a good idea.

I checked into this as well when I bought my new truck since I knew I would be adding the winch and winch bumper. Ford OEM springs, both front and rear, regardless of optioned package, are sourced out and manufactured by the lowest bidder. Regardless of sub-model, factory suspension will be bone jarring off-road.

The rear springs are 4 or 5 thick leaves which makes for a very harsh ride. The front coils are just as harsh, if not worse, especially if you order the snow package. And I'm just talking about tarmac driving, go off-road and the suspension will beat you up. Sadly, you don't know how bad you're getting beat up until you ride in a rig with an upgraded suspension or install an aftermarket suspension by any of the big name, reputable vendors. Consider Fox, Bilstein, Carli, sadly Old Man Emu only offers suspension products for the older Super Duty; OME new springs and shocks literally transformed my 2003 Super Duty's ride).

Frankly when it comes to suspension products, I would not give the Ford dealer 1 penny over the base package pricing when it comes to suspension. Save the coin and invest it in new springs (leaf on the rear and coils up front) and shocks from one of the better quality vendors. It will transform the 2020's ride as well, I have little doubt.

Suspension features such as progressive leaves/coils, an added weight carrying leaf in the rear (that only comes into play when you add a lot of weight (ie., 1000#) to the bed are very nice features to have when traveling off-road to that special dispersed camping site.

IMO, even the FX4 exterior components are not worth the extra coin for the upgrade. I went with the Lariat 4x4 model and took the money saved and added the Hellwig Big Wig sway bar, custom fabricated skid plates for the fuel tank and transfer case.

Here's what you get for the Super Duty FX4 extra coin:

Hill descent control
Rancho front and rear shocks
Transfer case and fuel tank skid plates
FX4 off-road box

Mine came with Ranchos even though I didn't order the FX4 or an upgraded shock. We tested them when I pulled them off at about 100 miles and could discern no difference from the XL shock. I think the FX4 shock is simply painted XL shock with an added boot.

Climb under a FX4 at the dealer. Would you really call that piece of flimsy metal a skid plate? More appropriate term would be a pine cone deflector.

I've been 4x4ing since 1970 and I'm not sure why Hill Descent Control is so desirable. Perhaps for those who have no off-road driving skills and find themselves needing software help? Kind of like inexperienced 737 MAX 8 pilots not US trained and based. Had to throw that in there because as a retired airline pilot, I think Boeing/MAX are getting unfair media coverage.

And don't forget that very cool FX4 advertisement/decal on the bed!

I'm not knocking Ford at all. 99% of the buyers are urban folks who want to portray an image. The truck is perfect for them. But, load up your camper and head off into the boonies is an entirely different matter IMO. Save the FX4 coin and invest it in worthy after-market components.

Given the cost of Super Duties, I consider them 15-20 year trucks for me. The 6.7 will be as well respected as the 7.3 in another 10 years. And even though we can't easily work on the 6.7 and it needs DEF (in the US) it is still going to be a great long-term truck, hence I call my upgrades and investment.

A friend just picked up a new 2019 F-250 Platinum (he has BIG bucks) in that beautiful metallic candy apple red. Tough not wanting to sell my old 2016 and get a new beer can truck (aluminum). But then I only have 30,000 miles on my F-350 plus all the stuff I've added to make it work for me. And I come to my senses...even before looking at the sticker of the new ones. Plus, 30,000 miles isn't even broken in!

Again, go through the Ford Upfitter manual, if a Ford option you want is in the manual and offered by an after-market vendor, check it out. The product will almost always be better and sometimes not as expensive as the Ford product.

Good luck and do your home work. Research can save you money and will certainly improve the fun factor of the new truck.

My 2 cents worth of advice is worth what you paid for it...Zippo. Just have fun figuring out how you want your new 2020 setup.

 

[klahanie]

I'll add my perspective on the snowplow / camper package option with respect to the front springs.

I too looked into this before ordering. I read on the forums guys who were replacing their stock springs with heavier Ford parts for lift and/or "stiffer" springs (this went way back to the snow plow option "X code" front leaf packs). At the time I looked into it, there were also some aftermarket coils, usually progressive rate and, at most, in two options, one for gas, one for diesel with no real mention of running a camper. Ford OTOH might have equipped with one of a bunch of linear spring rate coils, presumably in keeping with the large number of vehicle cab/WB/application/engine configurations.

The spring that I ordered ended up, according to the Ford rating, ~600# higher than my loaded font axle (FA) weight. I found the ride both on and off highway quite acceptable. Then I added a winch/bumper which put ~190# more on the FA and found, off highway the front end would sometimes contact the suspension stops (there's not much stock upward travel). As a replacement I tried the +500# and the +1000# rated Ford spring (was about $200 CAD from the dealer). Both were acceptable but the +500# was naturally more compliant. So I've been happy now with, according to the Ford rating, a spring rated ~1000# higher than the scaled load on the FA. Even better, turns out with or without the camper on, the front end weights about the same so the (front) ride is pretty consistent and is again acceptable, esp off highway. As always, YMMV.

It's worth it, IMO, to consider the intended application and, possibly, to take advantage of the factory options. It's prob not a lot of additional money when ordering, and not every truck mfr gives the factory choice.

Back to the OP, online spec says ~4000# front curb wt (2019 base vehicle, 6.2L), standard 5200# front spring. Add to the FA, what, 350# for options and passengers ? That would leave ~900# spread on the FA, weight to spring rating. Add the FA load from the camper and gear = ?, maybe a few hundred pounds. Depends on the camper and the packing.

Even so, in the absence of a winch/bumper, I'm thinking the 5600# spring (comes with the camper pkg (?)) might be a better bet than 6000# (snow plow).

 

[Advmoto18]

Klahanie offers informative info.

One thing I did learn in my search, is keeping good notes.

I discovered many after-market suspension components do not meet OEM weight ratings. Simply put, they are designed for off-roading performance trucks/vehicles without the heavy payload.

Because of the weight of the diesel engine, the camper, winch bumper and winch, 2 labs, humans and all of our stuff, I ended up having a California company design/manufacture rear spring packs based on my loadout.

I contacted Bilstein and received data for their Super Duty leveling kit. Rating exceeded OEM specs and provided a weight margin with the added weight of the steel Trail Ready bumper and Warn 16.5Ti winch with synthetic rope. I did opt for this winch setup to save on weight.

A progressive spring pack designed for your planned loadout will make your driving experience so much more pleasurable, not to mention off-tarmac ride.

Many ways to setup your new truck.

I have not researched the Super Duty Upfitter's Manual from Ford in the last year or so I do not know what is offered for the 2020.

Perhaps Ford is now offering upgraded components from the factory equal in performance to those from the big name off-road vendors. It would be nice if you could order a truck from Ford with those components.

 

[ardvark]

Man I have the biggest heaviest Fab Fours you can get on the front and my front end will still beat you up. I have my CAT slips and putting the truck camper on the truck and fully loaded adds a little to the front end so I am guessing the added weight is much less than a plow, but it does make for a better ride. Unloaded forget it!

 

[klahanie]

Many ways to setup your new truck.

True this. Do over I'd prob keep the orig front springs and add a coil spacer to give more compression travel to the bump stops. That was the advice I was given but I didn't take it, in part because of my concern at that time, that the lift might put the front suspension geometry out of the mfr's design range.

And as I recall the aftermarket springs included a "leveling lift" so that was not ideal for me.

Progressive rate has appeal, I just was unsure how the transition point for the sping offered would perform when the vehicle package was potentialy so variable.

Smart to inquire about the aftermarket spring rating. Don't know if Ford uses the same method of measuring but at least they give a rating of sorts for each of the springs used through out the superduty line which helps for making changes. I think it's prob the same old spring tech as before tho.

Man I have the biggest heaviest Fab Fours you can get on the front and my front end will still beat you up. I have my CAT slips and putting the truck camper on the truck and fully loaded adds a little to the front end so I am guessing the added weight is much less than a plow, but it does make for a better ride. Unloaded forget it!

Trucks are expensive, so it's natural we want a good ride for the money. And times have changed expectations, that's understandable. I guess a good rule is lowest spring rate to do the job - OP take note. Overkill here and it's gonna hurt more than just the pocket book ! Long travel would prob help, too bad the trucks are already so tall.

I don't know what a plow weighs but I know any decent load out front of the bumper can really hammer the front end, esp off highway. Because I'm not always careful there, I accept a firmer ride up front.

Agree, usually most of the camper weight goes on the rear axle. Ford's application guide for the OPs wheelbase states for a water level load the front axle takes only 2.9% of the payload. Without specific added weight up front, I not sure there's much value generally, in having a stiffer spring. Only thing I wonder about tho, is dynamic weight transfer, rear to front, esp for a camper with a large or heavy cabover.

Unloaded, yeah, that's why we want a Subaru !

 

[Advmoto18]

Sadly, Old Man Emu does not make a spring kit (F/R) for modern Super Duties.

I had the F-350 OME full suspension package with overload spring on my 2003 F-250. The ride improvement was stunning. Even with nothing in the bed, the ride was dramatically improved over OEM. the overload spring only comes into play when a 1000+ payload was in the bed, otherwise it had no perceivable affect on the ride.

I have no idea why OME doesn't offer product for modern Super Duties. I'd have bought those products if available.

 

[Ace!]

OME offers springs at least through MY2017 for Super Duty trucks.

 

[Advmoto18]

OME offers springs at least through MY2017 for Super Duty trucks.

Indeed, OME only offers suspension products through the steel body years...2016. Nothing for the modern beer can (AL) body trucks as of yet.

Plus, for 2011-16 MY, you only have a choice of 3" or 4" lift kits. I installed a 2" OME on my 2003. It didn't give the impression the truck was lifted which was my goal. When lifting above 2", one can run into geometry issues with Super Duty steering and drivetrain.

When going above 2", I think Carli offers some of the best product/components addressing lift issues, but, you lose payload capacity.

I don't want the appearance of a lifted truck, but gaining a couple inches of wheel clearance for off-chamber encounters would be nice. And more importantly, eliminating the factory installed block between the rear axle and leaf springs. Seems to me there is a market for such products but most after-market suspension companies focus on 2"+ height gains. Not my desire for my truck.

With these heavy trucks/camper, one most pay particular attention to one's line on a trail (such as the "Top of the World" trail near Moab). With the factory blocks over the rear axle, axle wrap can be a significant issue.

 

[Ace!]

OME offers springs through MY2017, not 2016. They offer three different front springs, offering 2" or 3" or 4" (45mm, 75mm, 100mm) lift heights (for MY2011-2017). They offer one spring for the rear, 3" (splitting the baby of the front height) to be used either alone, or with an overload depending on whether the weight is carried full-time.

 

[LosAngeles]

Hi all - a related question:

If a city has a maximum curb weight (as defined in the city’s MOTOR VEHICLE REGULATIONS IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS) of 8,000 lbs wet

How will I stand with a current Ford F350, biggest longest version, with an approx 2,500 lb (wet) Pop Up camper - always on board. Daily driver.

In other words - how would my rig relate to an 8,000 curb weight, the limit for residential vehicles in tat city?

Also in other words - would the (always mounted, daily driver) pop up camper’s weight count towards my curb weight? (in the eyes of the city)

the exact wording in bylaw is :

Any motor vehicle having a curb weight of eight thousand (8,000) pounds or greater. For the purposes of this Section, "curb weight" is defined as the weight of a motor vehicle with standard equipment, fuel, oil, and coolant;

thanks!