Camera Suggestions

stanbiker

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Hi,

I am looking to start taking more landscape/animal photos and was wondering if anyone had suggestions for camera/lens needed to start.

I have a Fuji xp60 that I carry for fishing and backpacking that I like because of the waterproof aspect.

I also have an old Nikon FG-20, but I'm not really into the film and developing hassle so would prefer a digital SLR for my next camera.

I would also want something that could be used for photos of the Aurora this winter.

Thanks
 
Stan,

There are so many options today that it is tough to say what would be the best camera for you.

I am a Nikon person but will tell you Canon also makes great stuff.

I also own an Olympus micro 4/3 mirrorless camera which while it is not the quality of the Nikon it is pretty darn good and is half the size.

There is also new "bridge" camera, the Sony RX10 III that has some outstanding features and a 24-600mm F2.4-F4 lens, so no lens switching.

The Aurora would want a good low light camera, landscape needs a wide angle and animals need some telephoto. If you are not going to do birding you may get away with a 400mm for your wildlife but 500-600 is probably more suitable. If you buy one of the 2 biggies those lenses are quite spendy. There is a good 3rd party lens by Sigma which could fill the bill there for under $2000 but either way you are looking at an outpouring of cash.

Low light photography is generally easier for the larger sensors so a full frame camera would be better for that but will be bigger and heavier and costlier.

So I guess you need to decide how much money you have to spend and how heavy you want your equipment to be.

There are many knowledgeable and great photogs on this site so you will have lots of info to sort through :)

Good luck figuring it all out!
 
There are many good cameras. I have used Canon for years. At this moment I use a 5D and 5DII both full frame cameras. But I have recently added a 7DII to my collection. It is my replacement for a 1D Mark II. It has fast frame rate, advanced focusing and is moderately light, with a large viewfinder. Works real well in the nature world because it is light and fast. With a 10-18 (16-35 equivalent) and a 18-135 (29 to 216 equivalent) you can cover a lot of bases. I do have L Lenses too. But often I opt to use the one camera and two lens set because hiking around with a ton of weight gets old when you are old. The 7DII is also great for sports the grandkids play. Fast frame rate makes a huge difference. Even during a parade speed is important. Bands pass quickly and to get each rank takes a quick camera. Inside the camera can shoot at high ISO and still look good.

https://keithbarnes.smugmug.com/Church/Shadow-Mountain-Community/SMCC-new-building-opening/

https://keithbarnes.smugmug.com/

5DII photos in the Midway

https://keithbarnes.smugmug.com/Vacation/USS-Midway-Tour/
 
All of the major makers are producing some great cameras. I use Nikon full frame gear, but there is nothing wrong with Canon, Sony and Pentax. Nikon and Pentax have cameras specific for astro photography, perhaps the others do to.

I'd start by finding a lens that meets your needs, for the format (full frame, crop sensor...) you select. A fast, wide angle for aurora and landscape work, and a fast prime telephoto for wildlife. BTW, lenses for full frame work nicely on crop sensor, but not vice versa. A couple of examples would be the Nikkor 14-24/2.8 for landscape, and Nikkor 400/2.8 for wildlife. The reason I prefer a smaller telephoto is for me, the light is more important than reach. On high quality lenses, you can gain reach by adding a good teleconverter.

Now, both of the lenses mentioned above are really expensive, so there are others that will do a good job. For landscape, the Tokina 16-28/2.8, and the Sigmas that Jackie mentioned are good as well. Both are made with Nikon and Canon lens mounts.

As Lighthawk mentions below, a good support system is just as important as the camera and lens. Read Thom Hogan's "Support 101" essay for GREAT advice on the topic. The Cliff Notes version is to buy quality gear the first time, or you'll end up spending more in the long run. I'm on the road, but I'll try and add a link later. I like Really Right Stuff legs and ballhead, with a Wimberley gimbal head for wildlife. I also have a collection of cheap legs and heads that I tried to "get by" with.

http://bythom.com/support.htm
 
OP might want to set a budget. You can spend $300 to $3000 or more. You will also want to leave some room for camera support, tripod legs, head and clamp which can be an investment too. I would have saved money if I avoided the cheaper tripods and bought quality the first time.
 
2nd the legs stuff. I went through 5 or 6 lesser tripods in my days. I now have a Gitzo Carbon Fiber tripod with a Wimberley on it. The gimbal head is great for fast moving action and can also be tightened down for stills. Once you shoot with one you'll be hooked so don't try it if you don't want to buy it...lol

I have the Nikon D810 and it is wonderful for low light shooting :)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/happyjax/albums/72157647183029000

All photos in this album hand held :)
 
I shoot mostly Nikon full frame (D4s and D800) but also got a Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3 (GH4 is the current version) for hiking and motorcycle travel. It is a micro 4/3 mirrorless DSLR so it's a 2x crop factor but at 16MP it takes pretty decent shots and the camera plus a complement of 4 lenses is about as heavy as my D800 and one lens. I'm not going to replace my Nikon gear with it but it's handy to carry around and it helps me get the shots I wouldn't if I had to lug my heavy kit around.
 
I feel like we need to ask Stan more questions before recommending gear. Lots of good suggestions here; however, I don't know"
- Budget?
- Does he want exchangable lenses or not?
- Water resistance?
- Intended print size?

I'm an Olympus MFT guy myself, because I hike a lot and the mirrorless stuff has a definite size/weight advantage. If I was looking to produce bigger prints, I'd take a serious look at the Sony Alpha series. SMALL body, wonderful lenses. Not all waterproof though like my Oly EM-1 body and Pro lenses are.
 
Thanks for the replies!

It seems I need to brush up on some new technology and terms before I start spending money. It is a little more expensive than I expected. It may need to wait until after the Hawk is delivered and modded first.
 
Canon 5D M4 or Canon 60D (Budget) with a Canon 16-35L mm Wide angle.
Legs? Really Right Stuff or Gitzo carbon fiber.

Eventually, you'll need a 75-200L. Feet can't always get you were you need to be.
 
I have shot entire magazine articles with an iPhone just for the unique look ( sharp, great color and lively depth of field ) and in contrast I did an article for the New York Times on Saturday, used a Leica M digital with a 35mm 1.4 and a Nikon D750 with an 85mm 1.8, so it really boils down to the task at hand and the look you want.

For landscapes I am generally shooting black and white film on medium or large format but if I need to do color, I use a Nikon D810 or better yet, a Hasselblad CFV50c digital back.

If you do happen to go the non-SLR route and get one of many enticing affordable compact cameras with the built in lens, just consider battery life, they are often not too great where as a lot of Canon and Nikon SLRs with interchangeable lenses are usually excellent in that regard.

Also, a plug for Nikon.....the system is huge and since it is still based on a lens mount dating back to 1959, there are a TON of great lenses to be had for it new and used. I routinely use cheap to find lenses like the 28mm 2.0 and 105mm 2.5 on the D810 to great effect.

So based on what you have described, I would get a Nikon D750, remote release and the vertical grip. Then for lenses I would get the 24-120 F4 VR and a 28mm 1.8 for the aurora shots. I'd wait to see what you like on the long end for wildlife since that is where the price and weight can add up fast. When it comes to wildlife, I don't do very much of it but when I do, it is usually in the range of 50-100mm since much longer than that and you are just making another one of billions of "mug shots" of said animal with no real narrative or context, why add to that mediocrity, right?

To understand what I mean about the latter, check out the work of Frans Lanting, Jim Brandenburg or my good friend Michael Nichols, lots of wide angle to normal shots.

Tons of beta out there, lots of hype from the internet gear review star set so brace your self for that...and good luck...:)
 
Kodachrome said:
To understand what I mean about the latter, check out the work of Frans Lanting, Jim Brandenburg or my good friend Michael Nichols, lots of wide angle to normal shots.
We had the pleasure of viewing Frans Lanting's work at the Smithsonian when we went back East in April. Great stuff.
Environmental vs. mug shots is an interesting dichotomy. Getting really close is not always an option ;)
 
stanbiker said:
Hi,

I am looking to start taking more landscape/animal photos and was wondering if anyone had suggestions for camera/lens needed to start.

I have a Fuji xp60 that I carry for fishing and backpacking that I like because of the waterproof aspect.

I also have an old Nikon FG-20, but I'm not really into the film and developing hassle so would prefer a digital SLR for my next camera.

I would also want something that could be used for photos of the Aurora this winter.

Thanks
Take a look at the Fujifilm X-T2 (pre-order). A review by Karen Hutton. If I was building a new system this would probably be my choice. It should do great with auroras. As it is I use Micro Four Thirds (Olympus and Lumix) with which I am happy. Third choice if I had to have full-frame would be the Sony a7R II.
 
Here's another fun read about a film shooter progressing to digital. Also loving the Fujifilm X100T (similar to the X-T but with a fixed lens).

"Once you’ve gotten the Id, the Ego, and the Superego out of the way, photographers’ personalities can be further distilled into three subcategories: your Poseur, your Old Poop, and your Shooter."
 
Lighthawk said:
We had the pleasure of viewing Frans Lanting's work at the Smithsonian when we went back East in April. Great stuff.
Environmental vs. mug shots is an interesting dichotomy. Getting really close is not always an option ;)
He presented at NPPNW (Nature Photographers of the Pacific Northwest) a couple of years back. An interesting person. Barry Lopez (Arctic Dreams) was in the audience too. Quite a pair.
 
I recently rented a Sony A6300 from Borrowlens.com for a backpacking trip in NE Oregon. My first experience with a lightweight/compact/interchangeable lens mirrorless system. For sure if I did more of these kind of trips I would look seriously at this system. The weight-savings was pretty remarkable but a caveat for sure is battery power. Without a solar charger for long trips away from the power grid you would need to carry multiple batteries for any kind of serious shooting with longer exposures, etc.. The Fuji system looks intriguing as it has much more manual controls, I found the multiple menus of the Sony pretty baffling. I'm sure with more time to sort out the camera one could find some setups to stick with to minimize the scrolling around.
At this point in time my workhorse Nikon DSlR and their lens array are just too time tested for me to switch.
 
Panasonic Lumix GX8. Micro four thirds sensor, interchangeable lenses. Many useful freaturs such as time lapse capability (for those auroras), very useful clip video function, articulating LCD screen and electronic viewfinder that twists up. Many more features. Google it.
 
CraggyMan said:
I recently rented a Sony A6300 from Borrowlens.com for a backpacking trip in NE Oregon. My first experience with a lightweight/compact/interchangeable lens mirrorless system. For sure if I did more of these kind of trips I would look seriously at this system. The weight-savings was pretty remarkable but a caveat for sure is battery power. Without a solar charger for long trips away from the power grid you would need to carry multiple batteries for any kind of serious shooting with longer exposures, etc.. The Fuji system looks intriguing as it has much more manual controls, I found the multiple menus of the Sony pretty baffling. I'm sure with more time to sort out the camera one could find some setups to stick with to minimize the scrolling around.
At this point in time my workhorse Nikon DSlR and their lens array are just too time tested for me to switch.
A mirrorless camera battery weighs 2 to 3 oz depending on model, so it is not a problem to carry several (or use a battery grip) on an extended trip. Many variables in battery life. I get 300 to 2000 images depending on conditions. Sony tends to use a less powerful battery whereas Fuji, Lumix and Olympus use bigger ones. The Lumix GH4 has a 1860 mAh battery that lasts a long time. In any case more powerful aftermarket batteries are usually available if you need them.

Yes, the Sony menu system sucks. Actually, they all do. Camera features have gotten very complicated and the manufacturers are terrible at user interface. Assorted manual controls, programmable buttons and touch screens add to the confusion. I eventually found what works for me but everyone is different.
 
My favorite camera these days is my Nikon AW130. DSLRs stay at home in the case while I'm playing with this. It has some built in timelapse functions that are just plain fun.

Titles added later, but the video is just with the sun setting. Point and shoot, on a tripod, the camera does the rest! Just push the shutter and come back later, movie is ready to be played.

https://photos.smugmug.com/Photography/Photo-Experiments/i-kKTWQDt/0/640/WarmWind-640.mp4

5 timelapse settings, Cityscape, Landscape, Sunset, Night Sky and Star Trails. Lots of fun.
 

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