Carson Iceberg & Hoover Wilderness Areas - July 2020

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We recently wandered over to the nearby east side of the Sierra Nevada for four nights and a couple of hikes. The adventure included social distance camping for a couple of nights with our friends the Teds. I have the story and photos posted to our blog and you can find it here -

Carson Iceberg & Hoover Wilderness Areas - July 2020

We hope you enjoy this quick trip - pretty much away from the crazy crowds haunting our area.
 
"I watched the little bastards swimming around" :ninja: :ninja: :ninja:

The older we get, a bit of salt and pepper comes out when appropriate. :p

Seriously, glad to see you, and have you see too, along with the Lady and the Teds out and about.
All is well with a bit of our world.
 
Lighthawk said:
"I watched the little bastards swimming around" :ninja: :ninja: :ninja:

The older we get, a bit of salt and pepper comes out when appropriate. :p

Seriously, glad to see you, and have you see too, along with the Lady and the Teds out and about.
All is well with a bit of our world.
Yup, a little salt and pepper. A cast iron skillet, bacon grease, brookies rolled in corn meal, and the next thing you know there’s fewer numbers of the little varmints swimming around.

Tasty little varmints... Mr. 3Pin should consider the “fillet and release” method of dealing with invasive fish species.

Thanks for letting us tag along!
 
great story on the paiute trout. thanks for stepping up for them in meetings. another fine trip report, thanks.
 
Thanks Ski great to see that area.Over the many years we spent at our cabin in Dorrigton,
we would spend a lot of time in that area you visited.

We always return to the East side Carson river area.
Since we have had the camper we get up there about once a year.
Beautiful places and actually I always find it less crowded.

Nice to hear the Teds spent time with you.Great to see Ted out and about.

Frank
 
Lighthawk said:
"I watched the little bastards swimming around" :ninja: :ninja: :ninja:

The older we get, a bit of salt and pepper comes out when appropriate. :p

Seriously, glad to see you, and have you see too, along with the Lady and the Teds out and about.
All is well with a bit of our world.
Thanks Lighthawk! As always, we do our best to quietly move through an area and be as safe as possible. We're glad all is well with up north :) during these difficult times. Be safe and well!
 
Wandering Sagebrush said:
Yup, a little salt and pepper. A cast iron skillet, bacon grease, brookies rolled in corn meal, and the next thing you know there’s fewer numbers of the little varmints swimming around.

Tasty little varmints... Mr. 3Pin should consider the “fillet and release” method of dealing with invasive fish species.

Thanks for letting us tag along!
Oh my goodness, you sound like a meat eater! :)
 
Casa Escarlata Robles Too said:
Thanks Ski great to see that area.Over the many years we spent at our cabin in Dorrigton,
we would spend a lot of time in that area you visited.

We always return to the East side Carson river area.
Since we have had the camper we get up there about once a year.
Beautiful places and actually I always find it less crowded.

Nice to hear the Teds spent time with you.Great to see Ted out and about.

Frank
Thanks Frank, you are always so kind! Yes, it was very nice to be able to spend some time with the Teds. :)
 
Wandering Sagebrush said:
Yup, a little salt and pepper. A cast iron skillet, bacon grease, brookies rolled in corn meal, and the next thing you know there’s fewer numbers of the little varmints swimming around.

Tasty little varmints... Mr. 3Pin should consider the “fillet and release” method of dealing with invasive fish species.

Thanks for letting us tag along!
But the poor little tasty varmint bastards don't know they're doing anything wrong! :D

Thanks for the great report. That looks like a great area, I hadn't heard of it before.

Another one for my list!
 
Very nice blogpost Ski.
In sharing your post with my wife she turned around and asked me “Why don’t you do this?”......so I will hopefully be starting our own blog post as soon as I can figure out how to do it and download the pictures of our latest travels...as if I needed more things to do in retirement!

But seriously, thank you for taking us along in your travels.
 
CoreyTrevor said:
But the poor little tasty varmint bastards don't know they're doing anything wrong! :D

Thanks for the great report. That looks like a great area, I hadn't heard of it before.

Another one for my list!
Thanks for the nice comment, we appreciate it and safe travels! :)
 
smlobx said:
Very nice blogpost Ski.
In sharing your post with my wife she turned around and asked me “Why don’t you do this?”......so I will hopefully be starting our own blog post as soon as I can figure out how to do it and download the pictures of our latest travels...as if I needed more things to do in retirement!

But seriously, thank you for taking us along in your travels.
You are most welcome and best of luck working on your travel blog. We look forward to following along! :)
 
Ski, thanks so much for your trip report. I visited that area frequently many years ago for the fly fishing but had pretty much forgotten about it. I am encouraged by your report of the lack of other people up there so I've now planned a trip to that area for early September.

Thanks for the reminder and bringing back lots of good memories. I'll submit a report on my return. I appreciate the fine line you walk in describing the area but not providing turn by turn directions. I will try to do the same. Maybe this will keep some of the uninformed yahoos away.
 
I helped with a couple of stages of the Pauite project after meeting the Fish and Wildlife crew in Lower Fish one year. I was accidentally fishing upstream from the closure at Tamarack Creek so they asked me if I wanted to help clip and bag fins for genetic analysis while they were electroshocking. I'm thinking this was in 2006? Then I was on an insect collection crew some years later. I also helped a botanist who was working on a study in the upper valley but that had nothing to do with fish.

So as to stopping fishing in 1934? I am pretty sure my late husband (legally) fished for and ate Pauites while camped in the upper valley as late as the 1950s. He told stories of fish and game actually patrolling, asking to see licenses and limits. And while I have never fished above the falls I (legally) fished below the falls as recently as 2010 or 2011. I know there are articles which make that 1934 statement but I think I would have been busted several times if that were true especially since I was often waving at Fish and Game crews while standing knee deep with a fly rod in my hand.

I have encountered people fishing in both Silver King and Corral Valley even after the closure and there is a licensed "fishing guide" who operates here out of Walker and "targets" Pauite Cutthroats according to his brochure. Apparently the only requirements to take money as a "fishing guide" is that you fill out a paper, have some kind of insurance and pay the state a fee. And apparently there are people who will pay in order to catch at least one of each kind of trout even if it means having to hide in the willows when someone approaches. I've written to the "guide". I've written to the state. I've left a review on his website. No one has responded and I get too angry to want to see if he has deleted my "review". So I boycott. I wouldn't ever hire a guide but he and his wife also own the coffee shop. I don't drink coffee anyway.

One day in the upper part of Coyote Valley I was sitting by the tiny creek painting when a river otter came floating downstream, on its back, eyes closed, with its "arms" folded across across its chest. It must have sensed the presence of me and the dog and dove beneath some under hanging vegetation to hiss and snarl at us. We gathered our things and left the otter to his floating.

That landslide is impressive. It caught my eye too. And your backcountry campsite must be near one of my favorites. I think I'll be gong back in there at least one more time before the snow flies.
 
Thank you and happy to stir up memories! :)


PJorgen said:
Ski, thanks so much for your trip report. I visited that area frequently many years ago for the fly fishing but had pretty much forgotten about it. I am encouraged by your report of the lack of other people up there so I've now planned a trip to that area for early September.

Thanks for the reminder and bringing back lots of good memories. I'll submit a report on my return. I appreciate the fine line you walk in describing the area but not providing turn by turn directions. I will try to do the same. Maybe this will keep some of the uninformed yahoos away.
 
teledork, thanks so much for your detailed comment on your many experiences up in that area. I expect you must have met our buddy, Phil. He went along on many projects on the Silver King and loved to do the cooking.

Please send me a PM in regards to the guide you have concerns about (and website link) and I'll pass it on the the Lieutenant Julie & I work with.

Your story of the otter in Coyote Valley is wonderful! What a great memory. Thanks for including that.

We hope you are able to get back in there before snow comes!


teledork said:
I helped with a couple of stages of the Pauite project after meeting the Fish and Wildlife crew in Lower Fish one year. I was accidentally fishing upstream from the closure at Tamarack Creek so they asked me if I wanted to help clip and bag fins for genetic analysis while they were electroshocking. I'm thinking this was in 2006? Then I was on an insect collection crew some years later. I also helped a botanist who was working on a study in the upper valley but that had nothing to do with fish.

So as to stopping fishing in 1934? I am pretty sure my late husband (legally) fished for and ate Pauites while camped in the upper valley as late as the 1950s. He told stories of fish and game actually patrolling, asking to see licenses and limits. And while I have never fished above the falls I (legally) fished below the falls as recently as 2010 or 2011. I know there are articles which make that 1934 statement but I think I would have been busted several times if that were true especially since I was often waving at Fish and Game crews while standing knee deep with a fly rod in my hand.

I have encountered people fishing in both Silver King and Corral Valley even after the closure and there is a licensed "fishing guide" who operates here out of Walker and "targets" Pauite Cutthroats according to his brochure. Apparently the only requirements to take money as a "fishing guide" is that you fill out a paper, have some kind of insurance and pay the state a fee. And apparently there are people who will pay in order to catch at least one of each kind of trout even if it means having to hide in the willows when someone approaches. I've written to the "guide". I've written to the state. I've left a review on his website. No one has responded and I get too angry to want to see if he has deleted my "review". So I boycott. I wouldn't ever hire a guide but he and his wife also own the coffee shop. I don't drink coffee anyway.

One day in the upper part of Coyote Valley I was sitting by the tiny creek painting when a river otter came floating downstream, on its back, eyes closed, with its "arms" folded across across its chest. It must have sensed the presence of me and the dog and dove beneath some under hanging vegetation to hiss and snarl at us. We gathered our things and left the otter to his floating.

That landslide is impressive. It caught my eye too. And your backcountry campsite must be near one of my favorites. I think I'll be gong back in there at least one more time before the snow flies.
 
Thanks for you wonderful stories and adventures!

I was going to ask if you have been up to Anna Lake for Golden's? And I see you have been there July 2016. I went with friends around 1991 and had a great time. Asked about Emma and told nice lake but too many people with easier access! Never made it to Emma.

Thanks for taking us along!

Well have to wait and see what happens with the fire currently threatening the area. It is hard to see wonderful assets going up in flames.
 
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