Lightening Strikes on FWCs?

Wallowa

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We had a long and violent lightening storm here last night; which gave me pause. Has anyone had or seen a FWC which was struck by lightening?

Thanks..Phil
 
I can't say that I've ever seen any type of RV that had been hit by lightening. Interested to see if anyone else has.
 
We have ridden out so many thunderstorms in our All Terrain Camper - similar enough to a FWC I feel it appropriate to post here - that I'm convinced the camper/truck do not add any additional attractiveness to draw a lightning strike.
 
Ya, I have the same reaction and impressions as Ski. Just sit tight, enjoy and don't use the time to clean your tire iron -just kidding :rolleyes:! Seems to me that vehicles all have some type of system that bleeds off that type energy, but I tend to still not touch metal things during the storm.

Smoke
 
Remember that the camper is insulated from strikes by the same rubber and air that the vehicle is, although sitting in your camper on the summit during a thunderstorm may not be recommended. ;)

Paul
 
PaulT said:
Remember that the camper is insulated from strikes by the same rubber and air that the vehicle is, although sitting in your camper on the summit during a thunderstorm may not be recommended. ;)

Paul

I was kinda wishing this was true about the tires...sadly the tires do nothing to insulate from lightening..not certain but this sounds like a Faraday Cage...charge on outer shell...but still, it would scare the crap out of me!



Most people believe the rubber tires on a car prevent lightning strikes. Ironically, it’s not the rubber tires insulating the car, but rather the conductive metal framing which protects you by conducting the electricity around the vehicle and its occupants. The truth is, rubber tires don’t prevent lightningstrikes in the least bit.



Do Rubber Tires Prevent Lightning Strikes? | WeatherImagery

www.weatherimagery.com/blog/rubber-tires-protect-lightning/
 
There was a guy on a motorcycle about 3-4 weeks ago that a lightening strike went through his fiberglass helmet, causing him to crash, and he didn't survive. jd
Wallowa said:
I was kinda wishing this was true about the tires...sadly the tires do nothing to insulate from lightening..not certain but this sounds like a Faraday Cage...charge on outer shell...but still, it would scare the crap out of me!



Most people believe the rubber tires on a car prevent lightning strikes. Ironically, it’s not the rubber tires insulating the car, but rather the conductive metal framing which protects you by conducting the electricity around the vehicle and its occupants. The truth is, rubber tires don’t prevent lightningstrikes in the least bit.


Do Rubber Tires Prevent Lightning Strikes? | WeatherImagery
www.weatherimagery.com/blog/rubber-tires-protect-lightning/



 
longhorn1 said:
There was a guy on a motorcycle about 3-4 weeks ago that a lightening strike went through his fiberglass helmet, causing him to crash, and he didn't survive. jd

Hey thanks for the cheery thought! :D What killed him the crash or a millions of volts or thousands of amps?

I leave soon on a two off road MC trip across Idaho and Montana....will "keep my head down"... :cool:

Phil




Amps in Lightning




A typical lightning bolt carries 1,000 to 300,000 amps. A typical lightning bolt is rated at up to 125 million volts. The “average” lightning bolt is very hot.



Lightning by the Numbers - Thompson Lightning Protect

www.tlpinc.com/lightning-safety/lightning-by-the-numbers.html
 
Well, since I have been hit by lightening three times, while out in the field, I hope next time I am in my ATC during the storm!
 
I"ve wondered if the Faraday cage effect would be improved if you lowered the top. Only been in one storm where I thought my odds of getting struck were pretty good.

I've talked to a couple of lookout operators who say its still pretty scary even if the structure is designed to take a direct hit.
 
Just had a look at dielectric strength of air. Consensus of the pages that I've looked at so far is 3,000,000 V/M. If we go with the voltage number presented above then your tires will need to be about 84 meters in diameter before they would have a chance of raising the vehicle far enough off the ground to insulate it. This assumes no steel plys in those tires.
Otherwise a lightning strike will have enough voltage to ionize the air between the metal of the vehicle and the ground and jump the gap.

https://hypertextbook.com/facts/2000/AliceHong.shtml
https://www.reference.com/science/dielectric-breakdown-strength-air-ec6ed7979ed41124
https://www.physics.byu.edu/faculty/christensen/Physics%20220/FTI/26%20Capacitance%20and%20Dielectrics/Dielectric%20Constants%20and%20Strengths.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric_strength
 
We were in a pretty good one in McClendon Springs BLM CG near Malta ID in May. It was amazing but I did start thinking about getting struck. We were about 20 yards from a big oak tree, but no other cover. I started thinking about lighting rods for campers and wondered if anyone ever set something like that up when staying in high risk areas. It would be a pain, but less pain than getting hit. We ended up not seeing any strikes anywhere near us.
 
I've been tenting twice and our campsite was struck by lightning. My enamel camping mug has holes to prove it. Scary sh!t.

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Vic Harder said:
I've been tenting twice and our campsite was struck by lightning. My enamel camping mug has holes to prove it. Scary sh!t.
Yikes. I hope there wasn’t any beer in it at the time. [emoji15]
 
Vic Harder said:
nope, just water or tea. We were hiding in an outhouse! The hail was 2" across...
If you had been struck by lightning while hiding in the outhouse....................oh the stories all your friends would still be telling.
 
With all of the methane in an outhouse that could've been grim.

Wonder what lightning-struck beer would taste like?
 

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