Maiden Voyage

We made it to Salt Lake today, roads were good because we didn't leave until 10 am. The trailer handled great behind the truck. Milage from Grand Junction to home was 12.2 mpg.

Here are a couple of pics, I have more, but I can't figure out how to make the files small enough:

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Walowa, I mispoke when I said "bid". What I meant was the price was as per the quote Steve gave me.

As for the trailing arm suspension, we went that route because we were advised that it was the way to go for the washboard in Baja. The Ruger uses Timbrens instead of air shocks, and is not as adjustable as the airshocks and Rancho 9000 shocks on the Adventure Trailer, but since I have Timbrens on my truck, I've been happy with the lack of problems and the ride. I don't know if I will regret not having the air shocks and Ranchos, but the Ruger IMO was more affordable and a good compromise for my budget.

Regarding the tires I chose, Steve recomends you use the same spare as on your tow vehicle. That cuts down on the need to carry 2 spares. That works for Moab or places where you might be able to easily get a new tire, but for Baja, I felt I wanted a separate spare for the trailer, and since it will probably be carrying less than 1000 lbs per tire, I felt a C rated tire was sufficient, especially because they are way oversize. I can run the air pressure way down to give the trailer a softer ride on the miles of washboard we want to drive. An E rated tire has very stiff sidewalls and will give a harsher ride IMHO. I ran 31 10.50 x 15 C rated BFG tires on my '98 Dodge Dakota and never had a problem even carrying my old Ranger II Shell.

The reason for the 15" size is that using 17" tires to match my truck would have really run the price up. The 15" Pro Comp wheels fit on the standard Jeep hubs Steve uses. I would have had to buy wheel adaptors to match my wheels. Another reason is that in Baja, you are more likely to find 15" tires than 16's or 17's considering you could end up buying a used tire from a little llantera. I may not get the big BFG, but at least I should be able to find something to fit my rim.

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camper rich said:
We made it to Salt Lake today, roads were good because we didn't leave until 10 am. The trailer handled great behind the truck. Milage from Grand Junction to home was 12.2 mpg.

Here are a couple of pics, I have more, but I can't figure out how to make the files small enough:

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Walowa, I mispoke when I said "bid". What I meant was the price was as per the quote Steve gave me.

As for the trailing arm suspension, we went that route because we were advised that it was the way to go for the washboard in Baja. The Ruger uses Timbrens instead of air shocks, and is not as adjustable as the airshocks and Rancho 9000 shocks on the Adventure Trailer, but since I have Timbrens on my truck, I've been happy with the lack of problems and the ride. I don't know if I will regret not having the air shocks and Ranchos, but the Ruger IMO was more affordable and a good compromise for my budget.

Regarding the tires I chose, Steve recomends you use the same spare as on your tow vehicle. That cuts down on the need to carry 2 spares. That works for Moab or places where you might be able to easily get a new tire, but for Baja, I felt I wanted a separate spare for the trailer, and since it will probably be carrying less than 1000 lbs per tire, I felt a C rated tire was sufficient, especially because they are way oversize. I can run the air pressure way down to give the trailer a softer ride on the miles of washboard we want to drive. An E rated tire has very stiff sidewalls and will give a harsher ride IMHO. I ran 31 10.50 x 15 C rated BFG tires on my '98 Dodge Dakota and never had a problem even carrying my old Ranger II Shell.

The reason for the 15" size is that using 17" tires to match my truck would have really run the price up. The 15" Pro Comp wheels fit on the standard Jeep hubs Steve uses. I would have had to buy wheel adaptors to match my wheels. Another reason is that in Baja, you are more likely to find 15" tires than 16's or 17's considering you could end up buying a used tire from a little llantera. I may not get the big BFG, but at least I should be able to find something to fit my rim.

I wish I could get more (and larger) photos to post
Great info Rich!

Likewise, I have been searching for a trailer for Baja and SW USA exploits for about a year. I came across Ruger about 6 months ago, but, forgot about them until your post reminded me. Thanks a lot! It was a very well timed post!!! I'm now in final discussions for a design with Steve.

When I bought my Hawk, I never envisioned needing a trailer. But, heading out on 6 week to 3 month trips, I simply have too many toys I did not want to leave behind! A well made adventure trailer, by a reputable builder, at an affordable price really is the only solution for me. I wasn't going to start loading down the roof of my camper with racks, box, bike carrier, etc.. At 62yo and still in good shape, I saw no need possibly injuring myself getting stuff off/onto the roof of the camper.

I'm going the customized frame route which has a very fair up-charge. Steve will be lengthening the frame forward of the cargo box as well as the tongue receiver. This will allow Steve to install a motorcycle carrier forward of the 5' cargo box I am spec'ing. I going with the 5' box v 6' so as to keep the OAL of the trailer to a minimum; it will already a somewhat long rig. I already have the newly upgraded Max Coupler P/N 100-5 and will be using it.

Since I will be carrying stuff close to the GVRW of the trailer (2900# but axle is rated at 3500# so plenty of safety cushion) I am opting for the 6x5.5 (6 x 139.7) hubs, 16x8 ProComp Series 69 black alloy wheels with General Grabber AT/2 tires ((285/75R16) basically a 33" diameter tire). I have 295/65-20 on my F-350. No way to match up the bolt pattern and wheel size on the trailer so I am going with the trailer spare tire as well. Which is actually a good thing, not because of potential flats, but because I needed a place to stow my Front Runner grill and Trasheroo! And as Rich mentioned, tires designed for 17" and larger diameter wheels are dramatically more expensive than the same 15" and 16" tire.

I will be going with the electric brakes. Not that I need them because the F-350 has superb stopping power for a non-distributing weighted trailer capacity to 8500# (trailer with no brakes). But, I think they will be an excellent re-sale feature, if/when I sell the trailer. Steve recommends brakes on his trailers for Jeep tow vehicles. So having brakes on my trailer will make it appealing to Jeep owners if/when I sell the trailer.

Trailing arm suspension offers a lot of advantages over a solid axle if you spend a lot of time on the highway. Driving for NC to the SW USA twice a year puts me in that category. Easy decision for me. There are advantages and disadvantages to both suspensions. There is a significant up-charge for the TAS, but, worth it in my case.

Timbrens...had them on my last Super Duty. Great product...install and gorget. I think 9000XL shocks would be too stiff for the trailer. I had this shock on my F-250 and now on my new F-350. An unladen trailer might bounce a bit with the Timbres, but, I think they will perform fine with a laden trailer.

Air bags are great devices. A lot of people swear by them, especially for leveling their truck with camper installed. While they probably work well on an adventure trailer, I see them a potential point of failure. And if down in Baja and you spring a leak on MEX 5 between Coco's Corner and MEX 1, you're going to be into a very, very rough and unforgiving ride for a few hours...or longer! Like Rich, I prefer the install and forget Timbrens for the trailer.

Regarding travel to Baja with the trailer...
I'm a member of the Discover Baja Travel Club and purchase my Mexican auto insurance through the club. Also my truck is enrolled in the SENTRI program which is not only super convenient and a huge time saver, but, also opens up big savings on Mexican auto insurance.

For example:
My truck valued at $60K (max they will underwrite), a 30 day policy is $907 without trailer! Didn't price it with trailer.
A 365 day policy without trailer, enrolled in SENTRI is $839
A 365 day policy with trailer valued at $10k in SENTRI is $992

While enrolling in SENTRI is a long involved process, in the long run, it is well worth the effort IMO if you travel to Baja as little as once per year. I have both my motorcycles enrolled in the SENTRI program as well!

Sorry...I really deviated from the thread.
 

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