Hi,
As I said in my previous post, I found the foam of the bed way too firm and I was not sleeping well. After multiple tests, I found a foam be I am very happy with:
3 inch of ILD 34 foam with 1 inch of ILD 24 foam on top.
4 inch of ILD 34 was too firm and I was bottoming out on 4 inches of 24. Maybe 2 inch of each would be great, I didn't try, I was worried I would bottom out. I am 190 pounds and I like beds on the firmer side but with some softness.
I ordered from foam order because of their return policy on CUSTOM CUT foam: if you don't like your custom cut foam, they take it back with a 15% restocking fee (totally reasonable for custom cut IMO). I did do a return and they were very nice to me when I did so. If you are in the bay area, I highly recommend them.
They have more expensive foam warrantied 15 years (V34 and V24) and less expensive foam warrantied 5 years (C34 and C24). The V24 is hard to find on their web site, it is under "Foam filler for Down envelope".
The dimensions I got for my 2011 hawk were slightly smaller than the foam FWC put it, based on their feedback, and it worked out well. I got for the large one:
Width: 76.5 in, Depth: 47.5 in
And for the small ones:
Width: 38.25 in, Depth: 16.125 in
They will glue both pieces of foam together for free.
House of Foam in Palo Alto has ILD 30 foam which may be great firmness as is and is cheap, but they don't warranty their foam and don't accept returns for custom cut.
I considered Latex foam which is what I use for my bed at home but:
- it is quite heavy
- it is very inflammable and require fire retardant cover (Stan, do you know if the fabric FWC uses is fire retardant?)
- the company below would only warranty cuts within one inch precision!
- no return policy with the company below
If you want to go with latex, this company has latex foam for cheap and I like the latex I got from them for my bed (I got 6 inch ILD 36 and one inch ILD 20 if you are curious!):
http://www.foambymail.com
On the plus side, it doesn't have all the fire retardant chemicals of other foams.
It would be great if FWC had an option for "premium" foam, or an option for no foam.
If you want the foam I got from FWC, you can come get it in San Francisco for cheap. Send private message for details.
Hope this helps,
Herve
Hello. I am a brand new owner of a Hawk. Wow!!! Will post pics soon.
The bed is really hard. I see 3 options:
1/ replacing the foam inside the cushions with softer material (such as what you suggest: 1/2" of memory foam on top of 2 1/2"s of standard foam) => need to cut the foam to fit in the multiple cushions
2/ adding a memory foam or latex on top of the existing cushions => where to store it after sliding the bed...
3/ getting a padded sheet => not as much padding but may be enough
Which option have people pursued and with what success?
BTW I got the "king slide" option so I can sleep in the same direction as the truck. I am tall (6'3") so this option rocks!
Herve