New tires needed. 3 snowflake rated is a must 5 choices in my list.

That's a good tire. I was down to that and the Wildpeak and chose the later. It's probably a coin flip. I did just do the Steens Loop breaking trail in the deepest snow with multiple full face shots over the the top and 5 degrees at the summit. I was convinced that I'd get stuck in multiple spots and have to shovel, chain, and retreat, but never did. If the loop isn't closed soon, I'd be surprised. With another snowfall, it'll be impossible to know where the road is in multiple spots without someone having gone before. I think I probably would have made it with the Coopers too.
 
Folks....the Cooper AT3 XLT is not snowflake rated. I do travel to Canada in the winter (not this winter) and the snowflake rating is a must. Anyone running the E rated non XLT Coopers?

Thanks
 
I have the AT3 LT Load range E and they are snowflake rated. My understanding is the difference is the XLT has more knobs on the shoulder and more mud terrain oriented.
 

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I was speaking of the LT too. If you do a lot of winter driving, my personal preference is to not do a tire that isn't triple peak snow flake rated unless I switch to dedicated snows in the winter. That's why I ended up with the Wildpeak.
 
I recently purchased a set of Cooper AT3 LT and am very happy with these tires. I have around 4,000 miles on them with most of that being a XC trip back west this fall in some heavy rains. More recently had them on USFS roads. No complaints and preferred over my previous BFG. My Cooper AT3 LT have the three peak snow flake rated.

Question: We usually spend much of the winter at our place in BC but with the border restrictions we have built a thermal pack and are going to be using our camper for skiing down here in ID, WA, OR, and MT. I have always run studless snow tires on my passenger cars and haven't put a lot of winter miles on my truck/camper, so I have not run dedicated snows in the past. But given our change in situations, I am considering a set this year.

I see that Ski3Pin gave good snow performance review for the Coopers. And Tire Rack also liked this tire in the snow. In addition to Rando's earlier input, I am interested in hearing other opinions on the Cooper vs a dedicated snow tire.
 
overtheborder said:
I recently purchased a set of Cooper AT3 LT and am very happy with these tires. I have around 4,000 miles on them with most of that being a XC trip back west this fall in some heavy rains. More recently had them on USFS roads. No complaints and preferred over my previous BFG. My Cooper AT3 LT have the three peak snow flake rated.

Question: We usually spend much of the winter at our place in BC but with the border restrictions we have built a thermal pack and are going to be using our camper for skiing down here in ID, WA, OR, and MT. I have always run studless snow tires on my passenger cars and haven't put a lot of winter miles on my truck/camper, so I have not run dedicated snows in the past. But given our change in situations, I am considering a set this year.

I see that Ski3Pin gave good snow performance review for the Coopers. And Tire Rack also liked this tire in the snow. In addition to Rando's earlier input, I am interested in hearing other opinions on the Cooper vs a dedicated snow tire.
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This is not a comparison of the Cooper to dedicated snows, but the Falken Wildpeak. I'm making what I think is a fair assumption that they are similar to the AT3 in the snow.

We are also a skiing family with a son who grew up racing. We always have run dedicated snows on our other vehicles. We decided to try the Triple Peak Snow Flake Wildpeak to see if we could avoid the swap when we got the truck this year. I made a run to the Steens and got into snow deep enough that I assumed I'd be shoveling out (postholed above my knees when I jumped out at the summit to snap a photo...at 5 degrees...dooh!), chaining and retreating, but I made it through. Performance was on par with my non-studded Nokian Hakkapeliittas on my Pilot. The only car I've ever had that did better was an Element with Studded Hakkapeliittas and that was probably more about the wheelbase and weight than the tire. These are clearly better than the Toyo winter tire (which is really bad), and similar to Hakkas and Blizzaks. I think the Coopers will do well.
 
I am using Goodyear Unisteel G614 RST tires, very satisfied with it. The tires are very heavy at 57 pounds each. Owned these before on a previous trailer and loved them.
 
I choose MIchelin Agilis Crosstour M/S. 3 peak rated. They work well on wet and dry pavement as well as on graded dirt and snow. A big plus is that they are quiet on pavement and are high mileage tires.
 
We’re building a new rig and Wildpeaks aren’t available in the size we want. We’re getting Toyo Open Country A/T IIIs. They get good reviews, our tire guy likes them, and they’re snowflake rated. The bad Toyo I was speaking of was the Observe. It was a Blizzak competitor, and not a good one. A/T IIIs get a lot of love in the press though. Fingers crossed!
 
Great choice with the Toyo AT3's. Had them on our GX and they were fantastic in the snow, sand and trails.
 
Vic Harder said:
Add the Yokohama Geolander A/T G015 to your list. Very happy with these on pavement, snow, ice, rain, gravel.
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+ eleventeen!

Can add that I've had a set in gravel-mud and sloppy mud and was pleasantly surprised at how well they worked in the sloppy mud. The gravel-mud may as well have been pavement for all that those tires cared.
 
Quoted from the review

"In the past, we've discussed the duality of tires in the On-/Off-Road All-Terrain category. Some focus primarily on on-road manners while still providing some degree of off-pavement traction, and others feature more of a true, dual-purpose personality, possibly at the expense of some refinement on the road. Up until now, our testing has focused almost exclusively on the former. Given there is no off-road component to our test protocol, it made sense to omit tires with off-road intentions, but even the more "aggressive" On-/Off-Road All-Terrain tires will spend the vast majority of their lives on the road, facing the daily grind and shuttling people from A to B. Traits like ride and noise comfort, light handling, and wet traction are what drivers will live with every day, so it's important to know which is the best option based on your priorities."

If I was going to only drive on pavement I wouldn't buy an All Terrain tire.
 
I'm leaning towards trying the falken wildpeaks. I also looked at the geolanders and another set of coopers. I didn't get quite the mileage out of the coopers I expected but that is probably just having a heavy 4wd that spends more time on 395 than I5.
 
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