Olympian Wave 3 Heater

I've been using a Wave 3 since my 99 Grandby was new in 1999 to over 9000 ft. and near 0 degrees in the Grandby, with it's only 3000 btu's when below freezing it will take some time to bring temp. up if it was shut off at night. I've had zero problems with it. Before the original maker sold it to CAMCO you could get the platinum pad replaced, but no longer, keep it away from dust etc. with the optional cover and it will serve you well. I mounted mine below ice box and brought a copper gas line through the storage box to it teed off the line that would go to 3 way fridge. Then seeing I had a rising heat problem with the plastic ice box door, I bolted two stainless steel L channels with a ceramic cloth in between them to deflect the heat from the door. You have to have air coming in and going out. Leaving the turnbuckle door open about a 1/4 and then a corner of one of the top window a jar works fine. I never leave it on when asleep just climb into good sleeping bag. For faster warm up in morning I turn stove top burners on for a very few minutes and circulate with fan, and try not to directly breath the fumes.
If below 7000' I have supplemented it with a Mr. Heater Buddy it's 9000 btu's heat area up fast but uses up little tanks fast, and won't stay lit above about 7100 ft. Because of its Oxygen sensor shut off, which wave 3 does not have. The wave 3 will get inside to about 50-55 degrees when it is 10 degrees outside, with aluminum foil bubble insulation over all the windows, and Arctic liner. Any larger wave mounted here would start to cook the seat cushions across from it. No noise, sips gas and just keeps truckin if kept clean. Most of time above freezing, I only need it on half setting once temp. has come up to a comfortable level. Or you can modulate it with the incoming air at turnbuckle door. BYW mice know how to get to that opening, so I make sure it is shut before hitting the sack... BTW , I see since CAMCO started making these, there are more complaints of the quality, I just ordered a new one for a back up in the case my 14 yr. old one quits, so I will compare...Would be nice if they still would service them, as not only dirt but a load of dirty propane can poison the platinum pad.



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Has anyone used these while out on a skiing or ice fishing trip, coming back with wet gear, etc. Do they introduce a lot of condensation, I'm concerned it will not help with drying out my boot liners and other wet gear after a day out in the snow.
 
madhatt said:
Has anyone used these while out on a skiing or ice fishing trip, coming back with wet gear, etc. Do they introduce a lot of condensation, I'm concerned it will not help with drying out my boot liners and other wet gear after a day out in the snow.
I've never had a problem with condensation using mine (Wave 6). That said, they do produce water, of course.
If it's cold out, like in a winter trip you mention, the incoming air -- the air required for venting purposes -- will be dry (low absolute humidity), so that helps. If your boot liners were near the front of the heater -- receiving the direct radiant heat -- they would certainly get way above the dew point temperature, so they would dry.
I camp alone, so in my case there's only one moisture-producing creature in the camper -- maybe that's why I've never had much problem with humidity even when running my Wave 6 on medium (~4500 BTU).

Anyway, that's my experience.
 
I've never had a problem with condensation using mine (Wave 6). That said, they do produce water, of course.
If it's cold out, like in a winter trip you mention, the incoming air -- the air required for venting purposes -- will be dry (low absolute humidity), so that helps. If your boot liners were near the front of the heater -- receiving the direct radiant heat -- they would certainly get way above the dew point temperature, so they would dry.
I camp alone, so in my case there's only one moisture-producing creature in the camper -- maybe that's why I've never had much problem with humidity even when running my Wave 6 on medium (~4500 BTU).

Anyway, that's my experience.

I see the Wave 6 on sale for $270, free shipping in the US. That price is almost too good to pass, it says that's 46% off regular. I may need to make a trip down to a mailbox in Washington to pick one of these things up. The price in Canada is about 2x that, yikes! I'm thinking the Wave 6 will be the best choice for full-on winter camping in a Grandby. It appears I can just tap into my fridge propane line.
 
It appears I can just tap into my fridge propane line.
The propane plumbing in my 2005 FWC Hawk included a capped tee (that would have connected to a water heater if I had one). I connected a rubber hose (one sold by a propane dealer) to the unused leg of the tee with appropriate fittings and put appropriate fittings (quick-connect and ball-valve) on the other end. I used a rubber hose because my Wave is free-standing so that I can move/point it where I want to.
 
I found that T last week in mine. I was thinking it was for the stock heater I don't have. I was thinking I would use it for a wave. Where do I get the right fittings?
 
idahoron said:
I found that T last week in mine. I was thinking it was for the stock heater I don't have. I was thinking I would use it for a wave. Where do I get the right fittings?
I'm the not best source for hardware advice -- not Mr. Handy. :p But mine has flare fittings, so that's what I went with to mate with the existing. I think I bought the fittings at a propane dealer, same place I bought the rubber hose...but they're available at hardware stores in general. If you're still interested I can take pictures of mine -- tomorrow -- and post them.
 
I would like to see them. Would the wave 6 be physically too large for a Hawk? Where do you have yours mounted and how? Can you use it with the couch made into a bed? I like the heating ability of the Buddy at 9000 BTU but the 7000 foot elevation has me shut down on most mountain trips. Mine shuts off over 6800 or so. And I can't use it with the couch made into a bed unless I put it on the counter.
 
I'm using the Wave 6 in a Hawk. It's free-standing, I bought the optional legs -- it sits on the floor. It's kinda big, but with just one guy -- me -- who has to maneuver around it it's OK. It might be a problem for multi-person occupancy, could very well be a problem if you fold down the couch into a bed.
If I mounted a Wave on the wall (such as under the furnace or under the fridge) I'd mount it on something that can swing out so that it can point -- at least partially -- up the length of the camper, towards the front of the camper, rather than just beam its radiant energy across the short distance at the box under the couch.

Tomorrow morning I'll take pictures of how it sits in the camper when in use and try to take close-ups of the hardware.
 
I'd love to see where you attached the propane connection as well. I've always thought about adding a wave heater but have not yet.
 
Guys-who-are-interested, sorry, but photos of my free-standing Wave 6 plumbed with rubber hose setup will have to wait until this weekend.
I have to remove the bottom part of the stove to view the propane tee (that's where it is on my 2005 FWC Hawk), and I got busy this morning, and now I'm leaving town for a couple of days.

If I haven't posted pics by Sunday, give me a kick. ;)
 
I just scored a used Olympian Wave 6 w/ cover and legs for $40. Sweet! I'll be lurking to see where you tapped in. This one says it was made in Spain, must be an older device.
 
As requested, here're some photos showing how I have my Olympian Wave 6 catalytic heater connected to my camper propane system and how I position it during use and during storage. (it's a Wave 6, even though this topic is titled "Wave 3")
I bought the hose and some of the other fittings from Sierra Propane and Allen Outdoor Sierra Saddlery/Feed in Bishop, CA. Probably most propane dealers or good hardware stores have similar parts.
(I put this together while camped at Grandview C.G. in the White Mts, which is why I bought parts 600 miles from home.)
Disclaimer: Follow the advice of propane professionals (I'm not one) when doing something like this.

(Click on the thumbnail images for bigger versions)

Note that the OEM plumbing and fittings and arrangement are in a 2005 FWC Hawk...so yours may be different.
(Also note that I am a slob...so yours may be cleaner. :p )

A rubber hose is connected to the propane system via a spare leg of a tee (actually, a cross) in the stove compartment. The hose is pushed onto a hose barb fitting.
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Yes, I'm not using a hose clamp. :eek: I didn't have a hose clamp when I put this together. The pressure in a low-pressure propane system, as in our campers, is only 0.4 psi -- there's no chance the hose will pop off the hose barb. But you might want to be more cautious and use a hose clamp.

I threaded the hose through the cabinet and out a hole under the furnace:
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On the other end of the hose, the heater end, is another hose barb connected to a ball valve connected to the female half of a quick-connect.
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The quick-connect is the type that shuts/seals the flow when the mating half is disconnected, so the ball valve is not necessarily needed...but in this case, belt-and-suspenders. ;)

Combination of fittings to position the male end of the quick-connect pointing round the back of the heater.
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The elbow fitting connected to the heater is a pivoting type, which is handy for positioning the assembly at the angle I want it.

The hose connected to the the heater; the ball valve is open.
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How I typically position the heater when it's on, running:
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How I store the heater when I'm not using it.
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The hose is disconnected from the heater, coiled up, ball valve closed.

The Wave 6 is BIG. When it's deployed in use, if I'm not mindful of it and I need to exit the camper I could easily kick it as I step by/over it ...so I just have to make sure I don't kick it.
When I'm not using it it's out of the way -- its size is not an issue for me when not in use, stored as shown in the last photo.

The legs on which the heater stands are an extra-cost option, needed if you're not mounting the heater on something. The cover is also an extra-cost option but is a really good idea to help protect the catalytic surface from dirt and spills when not in use. (Once, while the heater was running, I slopped some milk from my bowl of cereal on the catalytic surface...so I suppose that spot is dead now.)
 
I need to extend the hose on mine and make it freestanding so can put it on the counter. I'd love to do what you do but traveling with a dog makes that an unwise option.
 
craig333 said:
I need to extend the hose on mine and make it freestanding so can put it on the counter. I'd love to do what you do but traveling with a dog makes that an unwise option.

I did that on my install but have yet to use it. Hose it still coiled up and zip tied. Haven't used the legs I bought either. But good to know I can if i want ;)
 
Good write up. The male quick connect on the heater when it is not connected you might put a rubber slip on cover on the end to keep it clean of stuff or bugs that could bugger up the gas supply.
 
100acrehuphalump said:
Has anyone ever had a chance to compare the Forced Air Furnace that comes in the newer FWC's with the Wave 6? If so what are your thoughts please. I ordered the factory unit, but I'd like to know what other peoples experiences are in dealing with either. Thanks
I have a 3 wave and the forced air. I pretty much only use the 3 wave now
 
100acrehuphalump said:
Has anyone ever had a chance to compare the Forced Air Furnace that comes in the newer FWC's with the Wave 6? If so what are your thoughts please. I ordered the factory unit, but I'd like to know what other peoples experiences are in dealing with either. Thanks
I'm not familiar with the new models of forced-air furnaces...but to compare any model forced-air furnace in our campers to a catalytic heater is difficult -- they're such different beasts.
I have a 2005 vintage of Atwood forced-air furnace and a Wave 6.
  • I like that the furnace's fan better and more-quickly distributes heat throughout the camper -- especially nice for a quick morning heat-up.
  • I like that the Wave catalytic heater is dead silent and uses no electricity (because there is no fan)
  • Some people probably like that exhaust from the forced-air furnace goes outside so no moisture is added to the camper interior, unlike the catalytic heater.
For winter/cold-weather camping I bring the Wave 6 along for silent heat on those long dark cold evenings and overnight, and I use the forced-air furnace to bring the temperature up quickly in the morning.
I don't bring the Wave along when temperatures are more moderate, just relying on the forced-air furnace if at all. I'm OK with the downsides of the forced-air furnace when I'm using it only a little, and leaving the Wave at home removes that object from the camper floor.

To sum it up, I don't have a favorite type of heater, and I wouldn't want to compare "which is best?" -- I use both, for different reasons.
 
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