K7MDL
Senior Member
Edited 8/20/22: Corrected a few numbers.
FYI. I have never weighed my previous campers before. I was curious so yesterday I weighed my 2016 F-150 XLT SuperCab truck with my new camper at a CAT scale nearby. I have not yet weighed it without the camper yet.
Full gas (36gal) and water (~30gallons total), propane topped off, half of the personal gear loaded, no kitty litter or custom step loaded. Cab mostly empty, no passengers or driver. Total 6920lbs, front 3080, rear 3840lbs. Truck is 3.5L ecoboost 6spd auto and is rated at 7050lbs GVWR, 3450 Front GAWR and 3800 Rear GAWR. 3.55 axle ratio. eq group 301A, XLT chrome pkg, FX4 pkg, trailer tow pkg. Stock 18" wheels with BFG AT Load Range E tires (285/75R18). Timbren rubber springs on rear.
Hawk is Front Dinette model with Cassette toilet and its water tank filled, part of the 30gallons FW with 2x 12V batteries and solar. 4 corner jacks are removed (Maybe saves 120lbs?)
Add 2 passengers, the rest of our gear, cat stuff and will be over the top a bit.
Drain most of the water, remove unneeded 2nd battery (located aft of the rear axle), get to about break even. The trailer tongue weight puts it over again.
Load range E tires and Timbrens, no problems, already towed a boat with a previous 2013 Hawk loaded up to FL and back in the same truck. I run about 65 to 70lbs on the BFG AT tires. Truck sits level and handles well, stops quick enough.
Fun with numbers:
MSO lists shipped weight at about 1550lbs. I assume it includes the 4 corner jacks and likely no liquids as it was shipped dry. I removed the jacks for travel and for the weigh-in. The rear wall sticker lists around 1150lbs with standard options and 20gal water, some ice, and full propane. I have most options with an 85L compressor fridge, solar.
Truck payload is 1945# from door sticker (7050# - curb weight)
7050# - 1945# = 5105# curb weight
I have not yet weighed the truck without the camper so I do not know the actual curb weight adjusted with my installed radio gear and aftermarket tires. My tires are heavier than stock tires, and I have some radio gear and a small gel cell battery in the cab. Assuming +120# total. Tailgate is removed, it is aluminum and is maybe 40# so I get some payload back. Assuming corrected payload is now reduced by 80lbs to 1865#, just a guess for now.
So new payload number remaining before camper installed:
1945 - 80 = 1865 adjusted payload capacity
Actual camper installed weight is 6920#.
7050 - 6920 = 130 cargo capacity remaining.
Using my estimated remaining payload capacity of 1865#:
1865 - 130 = 1735 camper weight loaded with some gear and full liquids, no jacks.
Let's see if some things add up.
Stated camper ship weight on MSO is 1550#. Let's assume that includes the 4 corner jacks (est 120#). Not sure if this includes liquids as it is shipped dry.
1550 -120 = 1430 shipped camper weight minus jacks.
Subtract our actual weighed cargo:
1735 - 1430 = 305lbs cargo loaded in or on the camper itself.
I do not 305lbs of gear loaded. Water is not likely included in the MSO ship weight.
Add 30 gallons of water (20 cold + 6 hot + 4 toilet):
8.33 * 30 = 250
305 - 250 = 55lbs of cargo loaded beyond the water (no jacks).
I do not have 55lbs gear loaded in the camper but given there were a few estimates this is pretty close. I think we can assume that water weight is not included in the shipped weight figure on the MSO. Seems reasonable.
Drain water (-250), remove 2nd battery (-50), save 300lbs. Now have 430# actual payload remaining. Add 2 persons (+350), have 80# remaining for cat stuff and remaining gear, food items, fridge stuff, camper step assembly. Right at the max ratings. U haul trailer tongue weight on return trip will put it over 100-200lbs., acceptable. Removing the 2nd battery and water gave some RAWR room for the trailer tongue weight. Each tire is rated for over 3500lbs load each at full pressure (80#), lots of room there.
I picked this truck specifically because it had 36gallon tanks and 1945 payload vs the more typical 1200-1600lbs payload versions on dealer lots. Turns out I needed every pound. I had a Grandby on a 2005 RAM 2500 hemi (2600lb payload) some years before, with a hitch rack motorcycle rack previously so not my first FWC camper rodeo, wanted to drop back down to a shorter 1/2 ton with the new truck. This is actually the 2nd Hawk on this current truck. I looked at F-250s today, twice as much $$ as my F-150 was (and only have 43K miles on it), worse mpg unloaded, so sticking with the current setup. I also noted that F250 and F350 supercab XLTs with 6.5ft box are hard to find.
- Mike
K7MDL
FYI. I have never weighed my previous campers before. I was curious so yesterday I weighed my 2016 F-150 XLT SuperCab truck with my new camper at a CAT scale nearby. I have not yet weighed it without the camper yet.
Full gas (36gal) and water (~30gallons total), propane topped off, half of the personal gear loaded, no kitty litter or custom step loaded. Cab mostly empty, no passengers or driver. Total 6920lbs, front 3080, rear 3840lbs. Truck is 3.5L ecoboost 6spd auto and is rated at 7050lbs GVWR, 3450 Front GAWR and 3800 Rear GAWR. 3.55 axle ratio. eq group 301A, XLT chrome pkg, FX4 pkg, trailer tow pkg. Stock 18" wheels with BFG AT Load Range E tires (285/75R18). Timbren rubber springs on rear.
Hawk is Front Dinette model with Cassette toilet and its water tank filled, part of the 30gallons FW with 2x 12V batteries and solar. 4 corner jacks are removed (Maybe saves 120lbs?)
Add 2 passengers, the rest of our gear, cat stuff and will be over the top a bit.
Drain most of the water, remove unneeded 2nd battery (located aft of the rear axle), get to about break even. The trailer tongue weight puts it over again.
Load range E tires and Timbrens, no problems, already towed a boat with a previous 2013 Hawk loaded up to FL and back in the same truck. I run about 65 to 70lbs on the BFG AT tires. Truck sits level and handles well, stops quick enough.
Fun with numbers:
MSO lists shipped weight at about 1550lbs. I assume it includes the 4 corner jacks and likely no liquids as it was shipped dry. I removed the jacks for travel and for the weigh-in. The rear wall sticker lists around 1150lbs with standard options and 20gal water, some ice, and full propane. I have most options with an 85L compressor fridge, solar.
Truck payload is 1945# from door sticker (7050# - curb weight)
7050# - 1945# = 5105# curb weight
I have not yet weighed the truck without the camper so I do not know the actual curb weight adjusted with my installed radio gear and aftermarket tires. My tires are heavier than stock tires, and I have some radio gear and a small gel cell battery in the cab. Assuming +120# total. Tailgate is removed, it is aluminum and is maybe 40# so I get some payload back. Assuming corrected payload is now reduced by 80lbs to 1865#, just a guess for now.
So new payload number remaining before camper installed:
1945 - 80 = 1865 adjusted payload capacity
Actual camper installed weight is 6920#.
7050 - 6920 = 130 cargo capacity remaining.
Using my estimated remaining payload capacity of 1865#:
1865 - 130 = 1735 camper weight loaded with some gear and full liquids, no jacks.
Let's see if some things add up.
Stated camper ship weight on MSO is 1550#. Let's assume that includes the 4 corner jacks (est 120#). Not sure if this includes liquids as it is shipped dry.
1550 -120 = 1430 shipped camper weight minus jacks.
Subtract our actual weighed cargo:
1735 - 1430 = 305lbs cargo loaded in or on the camper itself.
I do not 305lbs of gear loaded. Water is not likely included in the MSO ship weight.
Add 30 gallons of water (20 cold + 6 hot + 4 toilet):
8.33 * 30 = 250
305 - 250 = 55lbs of cargo loaded beyond the water (no jacks).
I do not have 55lbs gear loaded in the camper but given there were a few estimates this is pretty close. I think we can assume that water weight is not included in the shipped weight figure on the MSO. Seems reasonable.
Drain water (-250), remove 2nd battery (-50), save 300lbs. Now have 430# actual payload remaining. Add 2 persons (+350), have 80# remaining for cat stuff and remaining gear, food items, fridge stuff, camper step assembly. Right at the max ratings. U haul trailer tongue weight on return trip will put it over 100-200lbs., acceptable. Removing the 2nd battery and water gave some RAWR room for the trailer tongue weight. Each tire is rated for over 3500lbs load each at full pressure (80#), lots of room there.
I picked this truck specifically because it had 36gallon tanks and 1945 payload vs the more typical 1200-1600lbs payload versions on dealer lots. Turns out I needed every pound. I had a Grandby on a 2005 RAM 2500 hemi (2600lb payload) some years before, with a hitch rack motorcycle rack previously so not my first FWC camper rodeo, wanted to drop back down to a shorter 1/2 ton with the new truck. This is actually the 2nd Hawk on this current truck. I looked at F-250s today, twice as much $$ as my F-150 was (and only have 43K miles on it), worse mpg unloaded, so sticking with the current setup. I also noted that F250 and F350 supercab XLTs with 6.5ft box are hard to find.
- Mike
K7MDL