2014Tundra DBL Cab 4x4 5.7 Standard Bed and Hawk Good Match

snorris

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Does anybody have this set up? Looks like the payload is 1500# for the Tundra. Not really interested in 3/4 tons, long beds etc. I would put a number of options on the Hawk. I would put what ever is necessary on the trk, air bags, timbrens, e rated tires etc. Any advice appreciated. :)
 
I Love My Setup And Wouldn't Consider Getting A 3/4 Ton. No Need To, As The Tundras Are Beefy And Handle The Loaded Hawk Very Well.

Air Bags And E-RIated Tires Are A Must If You Off Road it At All. No Need to Add This stuff With Just A Basic Metal Side Shell Though. I Do Use The Truck For Things That Warrant The Bags And Have Had Zero Issues Or Complaints.

Several Others On Here With Similar Setup So Don't Just Take My Word For It!

Feel Free To Browse My Gallery For My Setup.

Good Luck.
 
Kilroy
Thanks for the info it was what I was hoping to hear. May have some more questions for you if that is o.k. :)
 
first, i too have a half ton truck with a hawk. but do the math. be careful thats all. no matter what mods u do to the truck at the end of the day its still 1500. for me the timbrens were the way to go, and i am happy with them. no more saggy bum and the sway is gone.
with all the after market stuff, ie. timbrens, air bags, E rated tires. brakes are still the same and one feels them being a little slower.
all and all watch your weight, which is why most of us have these rigs in the first place, u will be fine. enjoy................
 
I am running a 1500 pound hawk on my 05 DC tundra. Put it on and drive it. I don't feel the issues that others are warning about. The Manager of the Toyota service dept drives mine every time I have it serviced. He takes it to work with him. He drives it 30 miles the day that he services it. He said it felt great and is now recommending them to other tundra owners.
 
Thanks for all the good info guy's, really appreciate it. Will be using it for my fishing trips and hiking trips to the mountains and desert.
 
Be careful. The older style Tundras are definately suseptible to bent frames. Not sure about the second and third generation Tundras. First generation had a "C" channel rear frame that when over stressed would bend between the cab and the box. I bent my '06 frame on the road between San Ignacio and Laguna San Ignacio. A double woopty doo that tore out the eye bolts on the camper and slid the Kestral four feet back. My truck looked like a pouncing jack rabbit. I was only doing 25 on the graded gravel road.
The truck frame was straightened. The camper was repaired. Just a very scarry trip 600 miles south of the border.
I now have a new Hawk (2014) on a F250 4X4(2013), short bed, extended cab. Really stoked with the upgrade. Peace of Mind for my Baja trips.
 
Don't forget while you're shopping around for pickups, be sure and crawl under them and look at the brake calipers, rotors, tie-rod ends, pittman arm, drag link, ball joints and other components like Trans/drive-line. And remember that those are just the components that you can see on the outside. The Tundra has many components comparable to a 3/4 ton pickup in some cases, and is definitely more robust than other pickups in the same 1/2 ton class (mostly Ram).

I got a kick out of this when I bought my Tundra: I had the dealership (they sell both Toyota and Dodge pickups) put a factory leveling kit on the Tundra to bring the front back up to level, and when the truck was on the lift I compared these parts to the Ram 1500 on the next lift & bay down. I was quite amazed at Chrysler Corp. for skimping on these parts and was reassured that I had made the right purchase at that point, especially paying about $4K less. There was a noticeable difference between the two, with the Tundra being built with beefier parts. This is something that you just can't argue when you hold parts side-by-side and compare.

I've owned Ram 1500's, 2500's, and Silverado 1500's and 2500's over the past 15 years and enjoy this pickup more than any of them. The Tundra isn't perfect, because I do see more bed-flex or frame-flex with the camper on, and know that the F150 has a much better frame for payload and stiffness. It's also a stiffer ride.

Hopefully this post won't generate haters or worse the infamous Ford/Chevy/Dodge argument. I merely wanted to dispel the thoughts that the 1/2 ton Tundra won't handle the Hawk. I also wanted to give you one man's experience with the Tundra (like you asked). With the 10,500lb towing capacity and 1500lbs payload rating, I'm guessing that my 1900lb Hawk (loaded) is in good hands with this pickup for stopping. And 381 HP and consistent 15MPG in town and 18MPG on the highway is palatable. As a bonus, you'll save some cash on the purchase price and maintain a reasonably good ride with the 'smaller' truck. I have owned the 3/4 ton trucks too and will say that the Tundra is more than capable of doing the job you're wanting it to do.

Personally, one of the nicest looking (and likely very capable) pickups on this forum is owned by "Lighthawk". They own a few year old Tundra and Hawk combo that I'm sure has served them well. I've always appreciated the craftsmanship of Toyota's.

Depending on where you look, Tundra is tied with the F-150 for 75% domestic parts while the RAM is around 65% domestic parts. Chevy is at 40% with much of it being from Mexico. The figures vary from site to site, but it is an interesting comparison indeed. It kind of sucks that the Jap's make such a good truck because prefer buying American...

The last interesting thing I'll be watching is next year when the Tundra has a Cummin's 5.0L V8 diesel engine under the hood!

I hope this is also helpful.

KILR0Y
 
KILR0Y said:
Personally, one of the nicest looking (and likely very capable) pickups on this forum is owned by "Lighthawk". They own a few year old Tundra and Hawk combo that I'm sure has served them well. I've always appreciated the craftsmanship of Toyota's.

KILR0Y
Thanks Kilroy. It must have been photoshop! :)

Back OT. The first gen Tundra Hawk combo can definitely work well, as shown by Sunman, myself and others. All trucks need E rated tires, IMHO. In addition, the lighter trucks with the heavier popups do well with either airbags or Timbrens. Brakes are not as strong as my F150 work truck with disc brakes all around, but I drive with care and have never had a time I couldn't stop when I needed to. The V8 engine supplies ample power for passing with camper aboard.

Certainly, 3/4 ton trucks will carry the camper with less effort, but it's a bigger package to drive and finding parking in town can be a pain. If you like Toyota, then Tundra or V6 Tacoma can do the job with a few mods to suspension.
 
Ditto to Lighthawk...
I have a Hawk nested on a 2002 Tundra with Firestone airbags and E tires....that be it. Drive mindfully as you would with any vehicle with significant weight and you're good to go. Another option one can do (I'm told) is to replace the stock brakes with larger brake calipers. If I'm not mistaking, by doing this will improve the braking response.
 
I would like to add E rated tires. My traction tires for winter are D and they are good. My summer tires are only C rated and they are soft even with them maxed to 50 PSI.
 
I have to agree, I had a 2010 tundra dc with the 4.6 V8. My 8' pop up didn't bither it a bit. They are outstanding, the 4.6 is 305 hp or so and I got 21-22 mpg empty on the highway.
 
I have seen damage to the rear springs on both Fords and Toyota Tundra (current make) extended cab/double cab when a Hawk with every option was on the truck full time. The bolt on "helper springs" did not help so new spring packs, air bags or timbrens could be a better choice. The truck owners were very happy with their truck/camper combinations but I tend to be overly fussy about springs bent out of shape. One set was bent into an "S" in front of and in back of the axle. Another truck had the lower short leaf not touching the upper two because the top two springs were bent so far down. Again, these were loaded Hawks on full time.
 
I have the same pickup and just ordered a 2014 FWC Hawk with some nice options, should be ready around Thanksgiving. Went to Woodland to figure it all out. One of their dealers that I had talked to in the past said that a lot of owners install without any suspension (on 1/2 ton pickups) and then add afterwards if needed. Was thinking I prefer to install the airbags before delivery and then if not needed its not a big deal. Thoughts? Anyone install these on their own?
 
My set up is 2006 Nissan Titan 4x4 King cab, Firestone air bags/ 2000 Hawk heater, awning, couch,ice box, stove, sink and Titan Ricon jack stands . Looking to add air conditioner and a 3 way refrig. Moving to Arkansas and hoping not over weight. Air Conditioner is a must in the humid-hot weather. Ice Box (can live with) but the refrig would be nice. Have had it from birth and my Titan seems to haul it without any issues.
I also tow a 519 Ranger bass boat.
 
The new Canyon/Colorado could be interesting. Boxed frame, higher payload etc. Without the size of a bigger rig. Im not a GM fan, but...

Very curious how they do.

The 1980's pontiac center shifter on the consol was a big mistake though.

Fixed load on rough roads you want some buffer margin in the rated springs. Custom springs are a good value over the long term.
 
Received the Air Bags yesterday and of course had to install them right away. Pretty easy install though if I had to do it again I would have just cut the Bump Stops off instead of loosening the U Bolts and removing them completely. Although nice to have them off, its a little stressful thinking about making sure I torqued the U Bolts down properly after Bump Stop removal.

Although in a somewhat inconvenient spot, I put the air valves in the support that attaches the bumper to the bed. You have to look under the truck to fill up the bags but the valves are out of the way and out of sight. Not a big deal for me.

One note to help someone else is that it tells you to hand tighten the air elbow on top of the bag and then tighten with a wrench 3/4 turn, which wasn't enough for me as it still leaked. If you install, start at that and test, and then increase gradually until no air leaks.

Now I just need to wait another 3 weeks for the camper to be finished and then really test them.

Total install time was about 2 hours.
 
Mine bleed off a little air over time. My right one would bleed off about 4 pounds a week. The left one would bleed off maybe 4 pounds a month. I put up with that for about 1 year and I had enough. I found the leak with soapy water and found that the end was not cut right. I redid it and it seems to be holding as well or better than the left. I check them about 1 time a month.
 
I've already said this before, but if it keeps someone else from breaking down on the road, I'll do it again.

All you guys with new airbags, be sure you don't use the stock nuts & bolts provided by Firestone.
They have a way of breaking on rough roads. Seriously: Broken bolts on my Firestone 'bags happened twice to me and a few others here on WTW.

There is a simple fix: replace the OEM nuts & bolts with grade 8's. I got mine at the local True Value. I think it cost me $16.
Zero problems since. YMMV
 
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