Proud owner of a Fleet Cajita NCO (shell)

BurkeDroppings

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Hello Fellow FWC Owners, former owners and wannabees,

I took possession of my new camper two days ago and am looking forward to a "shake-down" outing less than two weeks hence: a bluegrass music festival in the Sierra Nevada foothills (AKA the "Gold Country").

Some members here have said mean things about my model of choice, using language that implies the NCO is "not normal," overpriced, too small – and worse (click here to see). Well, time will tell.

Speaking of time, most of my fellow FWC brethren have their rigs parked out in the elements – month after month and year after year. Mine is tucked safely in my garage (door closed). When I'm ready (IF I ever am ready) to sell, I may enjoy a lower rate of depreciation than others. Incidentally, that goes for both my Cajita AND my truck. (Hmmmm)

For those who consider my cramped quarters to be a "step down" from more spacious (and costly, and higher-maintenance) rigs, consider that my nest is a huge "step up" from the tents I've used over the past 30 years or so.

My water-tight shelter will serve almost exclusively as bedroom and office. I expect to continue doing most of my "living" outside -- you know, in environments I've traveled distances to experience. Weather permitting, I'll do my cooking and eating and bathing, etc. outside my camper – in far less cramped quarters than the biggest and most elaborate (and costly) rigs around.

Oh, it will be great to be in out of the weather and to drop my lid and skedaddle in a matter of minutes; but I'm still going to be a camper. I wasn't looking for a portable house that I'd spend a lot of time inside, looking out at nature from. Out is where it's at; in is for sleeping and writing (I'm a writer, hence the need for an office).

I hope I don't sound defensive. I just read the Cajita thread referenced above and it sorta got my dander up. I'm actually quite impressed by those elaborate rigs and am even more impressed by folks who modify and adapt theirs to create the environment they desire. More power to them. For me, however, less is more. Stuff tends to get between me and that which I hold more dear. I'm with Thoreau who cried, "Simplify! Simplify!"

By the way, after spending time studying the huge motorhome and fifth-wheel crowd I did begin to wonder whether I could fit all that was needed into just 50 square feet. But then I took a look at the folks who travel by motorcycle or bicycle and those who are backpacking; and I realized that my ability to effortlessly haul hundreds of pounds of gear great distances at high speed (sometimes over rough terrain) and my ability to simply "stop and pop" whenever I need to rest or work, provided incredible luxury and convenience.


OK, I know have yet to spend a single night in my new nest and all I'm saying now is theory and speculation. Only time will tell whether I've underestimated my real needs. But, for now I'm betting on my little Cajita.

I promise to let you know how things work out. I will be truthful and forthcoming. I've been guilty of making many poor decisions during my life; and am not too proud to admit to them. So, stay tuned; I'll have some real camping experience to report before long.
 
Hi David,
Welcome ! ! ! :D
Well, I am very glad to hear from someone who has gotten a Cajita.
I think they are great - really looking forward to hearing how you like it. A "NCO" camper is a great solution for a lot of folks, I think.
As you got the shell model, I am sure there will be many interested to know how you plan to fit out the interior, please... Was it a shell with a bed option, perhaps ?
Anyway, very glad you posted and hope you will post up often and please do include lots of photos :p
 
Hi David,

Welcome and congrats on your new camper. Yes, you did come off as a bit defensive. Take a look at the top of that thread again. A little more than 40% of us said they like the Cajita. Not a majority, granted, but the Cajita isn't exactly despised. I see it as similar to the guys that argue Ford vs. Chevy vs. Dodge. They are all still trucks and those guys are truck drivers and they all still swap stories over a beer at the end of the day. Whether its a Cajita or a Hawk or a Pheonix, they are all still campers and we all got them for the same purpose. So by all means, please share with us your photos, modifications, trip reports, etc. as that is what we like on this website. And if you ever join a rally, I'd expect everyone would want to check out your camper, even if they were one of the ones that didn't care for the design.

BTW, there are a couple of other members that lean towards bluegrass and, I believe, attend the festival you are going to. So go introduce yourself if you see another pop-up there.

Happy camping!
 
Welcome BD!

Excited to see how you like your camper. I still think the Cajita is a great fit for some applications.

What are your plans for the interior? Desk and bed?

Some photos of your new FWC would be great.
 
I think you just made Stan a happy man.

BTW, I was always for the model, as I recognize the need/market for that design.

Happy Campin' !!

Jeff
 
What an active discussion site!

Thanks, all, for the welcome.

My only amenities are lights and the rollover couch/bed (oriented perpendicular to the line of travel, up against the cab of my truck). I did opt for jack brackets (but no jacks) as I expect to remove the camper from my truck one day (but not for more than two years); I'll be able to install the jacks later, but wouldn't have been confident attaching brackets. Oh, I also opted for the screen door; I'm a huge fan of cross-ventilation and am not at all a fan of mosquitoes and other flying insects.

I'm not going to formally "fit out the interior" for a while – if ever. I'm a minimalist; and I'm NOT handy with tools (can't draw a straight line with a ruler, let alone cut a board at a 90º angle).

So, I'm going to start out using cardboard boxes, a TV tray and assorted sacks and bags. Then, as I get a feel for how I want to organize my possessions, I'll look into more durable and convenient options (plastic or metal containers that resist moisture and creatures and a larger and more sturdy work platform (I use a laptop, but a TV tray is still a bit flimsy and confining.

I'll obviously be on the lookout for other pop-uppers, most particularly those of the FWC variety. I'm a real hermit these days; I rarely see, let along speak with, my neighbors. I'm certain that will change in the camping community. I do expect to boondock and stealth camp about half of the time; but when I'm in the proximity of others, I look forward to getting to know them. Nothing beats sitting around the campfire with nice people (having a few kids around would be nice, too).

Hey, thanks again for the warm welcome. I'll take some pictures (and write) during my bluegrass outing and share highlights with you all.
 
I hope I don't sound defensive. I just read the Cajita thread referenced above and it sorta got my dander up.

Why would you even care what anyone else said about the Cajita? It is your choice and if you are happy, that is all that matters.

Welcome and many happy trips.

CWD
 
I don't think I got a picture of his truck before he left ?

Pretty sure this customer got a Cajita Fleet Shell Model ?


Attached are some similar pictures maybe.

The pictures attached are of a Cajita Eagle Shell Model.


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Looks nice! Have Fun!
I was told I was mad to put a ranger on a T100... :D

I have noticed more fun than madness...

Again, enjoy!

Roger
 

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Hello again, I promised some photos. Don't have more than these snapshots right now (and I hope I'm uploading them properly).

BTW, that little Cajita roof is much heavier than I expected. And the low ceiling makes it kinda hard for my fat old body to get under and push. I'm sure I'll figure out a way to maximize leverage and get the job done with relative ease; but I was kinda expecting my "shorty" to be an easy lift...

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Five words...

Roof Lifting Helper Shocks Thingys

Visit the above link and read on and on and on.

Not sure you'll need the 40 lb units that the cabover poptop campers are using.
Maybe give Stan a call to see if they have any idea of the right version for that little box.

This is a great addition to any popup truck camper.

And, it can be either DIY (pretty easy to do, screw and seal), or factory install... drive up to FWC, or talk to Marty in Sacramento at All Terrain Campers. (Jay, I beat you to it!)

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Central California, huh?

Valley or Coast?

Oh yeah, Welcome aboard.
 
Welcome and congrats on your camper. Looking forward to seeing some trip reports. Thank god you're a writer. Balance out all these photographers we have here :)
 
Welcome to our forum and the world of light weight pop up campers. We just bought our FWC Eagle and picked it up in August. I think your Cajita will serve you well. It is for a niche market not for everyone but I thought it a well-conceived design and am glad you are happy with it. Our Eagle sits on our 1999 Tacoma quite well and probably doesn't have that much more room than your Cajita. But, it serves us well and we are happy with it. It gets us where we want to be and fits in our Texmo pole building garage even with top up.

Do post images and since you are a writer, do write to us about your travels/experience. We are photographers but I have been lax about posting any as am busy still processing images from 2 music festivals and a couple of trips. WE seem to sleep better in our camper which is strange as the cushions are firmer and I like a soft bed. Maybe it is due to our being very active while camping on outings.

Enjoy.
 
Looks awesome. I'd love to have a look in one of them sometime. Surprised to hear the roof is heavy, though perhaps not. I'm shocked sometimes at the weight of lifting the cabover when I attempt to do it with my lower back. It's awkward but not by any means impossible. Must install lifters!
 
A 1" piece of hard foam placed on top of your head helps with lifting.

Never wear a baseball cap with the button on top while doing that, unless you want that soft "baby" spot on top of your head to return.
 
Surprised to hear the roof is heavy, though perhaps not.


I was thinking that because it is sorter there would not be as much leverage, so you would be lifting the weight more straight up. So even though the roof weighs less, it is harder to do the lifting from the ends.

Does that make sense? Or have I spent too much time in the sun?
 
Hey, thanks for the great welcome. I really appreciate the CONTENT on this forum. Not a lot of LOL and OMG nor flaming and one-upmanship. But lots of good (and specific) advice. How refreshing!

Thanks for your five words of wisdom, Kat. A less kind person would have substituted (Get yourself to the GYM!), but Shocks Thingys may prove more do-able (ha ha). Not thinking I'd have a problem (it looks so effortless in the videos), I didn't opt for the $250 factory installation. If I do go for thingys, I think I'll put them on the outside as several in the forum have done -- every cubic inch is precious inside.

And I'm in the Valley, not along the coast (more's the pity!). I came up here from the Southland to see what it looks like when a University of California opens for business in a community where one in five live below the poverty line, only one in eight have college degrees (less than half the state average) and just two-thirds of those aged 25 and older completed high school. Surprisingly, the university's impacts are pretty subtle (but important; and the long-term benefits will be substantial). My experience has been a bit more exciting than watching grass grow, but not quite at the level of paint drying (JK).

Hey, Rancher! Great advice on the baseball cap and foam rubber. I'm soft-headed enough without adding little dents thanks to my Cajita. I think when you owners of the "big" models see how low the ceiling is you'll be a bit shocked. I won't, for example be able to sit upright on the couch with the roof down. I hope the benefits outweigh that pretty significant drawback. I expected to do quite a bit of stealth camping; but I don't think I'm going to be happy spending much time with the drawbridge lowered. It's OK for sleeping, but not for writing...

And I think Nathanael may be on to somthing with the short-roof/less-leverage theory. I hadn't thought of that; but it makes sense. I've been discussing a new (cheap and simple) lifting aide with some engineers (found a great forum online and they're responding like folks here do). It it pans out, I'll share the idea with the group. In fact, if it works on my rig it should be even sweeter for you high-risers.

One other variable is the distance I have to extend my roof. Because I start from a lower point (or elevation) of origin, I have to raise mine farther (there's more fabric, as you may have noticed from the photos). That makes the contrast between "down" and "up" very dramatic -- feels like a ballroom when raised compared to the space under a bed when down. I should ask my engineer friends to factor that into the roof-raising study.

Well, I'm heading out on an errand. While out, I'm going to pop my roof up. I intend to keep doing it until I either decide I can handle it on my own or that I need the thingys or my new invention – or a strong wife.
 

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