Wood stove in my FWC

ben.g.gibson

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Hey everyone,

It's been a few years since I did this, but I've been using it a lot recently and thought I'd share my approach for installing a wood stove in my Grandby. It's probably my favorite feature of the camper now. I kept the LP furnace, but the quality of heat, the flickering light, and the sound (or lack thereof, compared to the furnace fan) from the stove make for such a cozy space.

The stove is the Cubic cub, and it has been awesome. It features a secondary combustion system that makes for a clean, efficient, and controllable burn. Definitely on the spendy side, but I'm a wood stove geek, so it was worth it for me.


IMG_20190209_133909643 by ben gibson, on Flickr


IMG_20181203_153842798 by ben gibson, on Flickr


Obviously, the challenge with our campers is how to install a chimney with a roof that raises and lowers. I opted for a straight chimney that could be installed and removed as needed, but another approach I considered was for the chimney to come out of the stove, bend 90 degrees to penetrate the wall, and then bend 90 degrees again upwards to clear the canvas. The outdoor portion of the chimney would need to be removable for when the roof is down.

I wanted my stove to burn as efficiently as possible, and there are a few issues with the above approach. First, the bends would impede flow through the flue, and thus through the stove, but also it's pretty well known that creosote and soot tend to build up at bends. I should add that these losses could be pretty minor, I never quantified anything...

Second, oxygen flow through the stove relies heavily on heat within the flue drawing the exhaust gases upwards. Inadequate flue temps mean less draft, less oxygen through the stove, less combustion, less heat, etc. I think having more than half of the flue outside would have a negative effect on flue temp, so I decided against that approach.

Knowing that I wanted to go straight up for optimal flow/maintenance, I needed to figure out a way to install/remove the flue as the roof raises and lowers. I couldn't find any double-wall flue options that weren't bell and spigot, which complicated things. I thought about fabricating my own flue with V-bands (which you see sometime on turbos/exhaust pipes), which would be easy to insert, but nixed that for time reasons. So I decided to find a way to just accommodate the bell and spigot connections on the flue that is made for the stove. For this, I attached the stove to a scissor lift table. After the roof is up, with the stove in the lowered position, I can insert the chimney into place, and raise then raise the stove to close the bell/spigot connections. It works pretty well! I can setup/breakdown in less than a minute.

IMG_20181201_173010359 by ben gibson, on Flickr

IMG_20190101_120336213 by ben gibson, on Flickr

Here are some of the other miscellaneous details, including the heat shield and roof connection. I made the heat shield out of some scrap aluminum 0.03" aluminum sheet I had, and it has worked well. Not much to say about it, other than it is spaced away from the walls in order to shed the heat.

The roof sheeting was too thin/flimsy to mount the deck fitting and exhaust cap, so I attached some 1/4" aluminum to the roof frame. It's pretty sturdy, which is nice for raising the scissor lift to get tight connections in the flue joints.

IMG_20181201_125915750 by ben gibson, on Flickr

IMG_20181201_131627087 by ben gibson, on Flickr

IMG_20190209_133803307 by ben gibson, on Flickr

20190426_102446 by ben gibson, on Flickr

20190610_215318 by ben gibson, on Flickr

20200725_002711 by ben gibson, on Flickr

Cheers!
 
Having been a wood stove home heating person I would think this
stove would drive you out with the heat it produces.

Our campers are so small inside even with the gas furnace it gets very hot.
I would think just a few pieces of kindling could keep it toasty.

Cool idea though.
Thanks for sharing.
Frank
 
Awesome. I believe Kimbo offers a propane or wood stove in their campers and the new Scout camper has a marine propane fireplace as an option. Both are hardsides with straight up flies.
 
Innovative to say the least and while is does pose some issues it can supply heat without electricity [assuming it is NOT a pellet stove as was asked]....concur that with a fire box that size it out cook us out of the Hawk with all but the smallest fire.

Very clean and well thought out installation; congratulations....wish I had that talent!

Phil

Ps...Just me, but all 'air tight' wood stoves are never truly air tight...sooooo, in that small space I would have a sensitive top of the line carbon monoxide sniffer in the camper and of course keep a roof vent partially open, that is unless the chimney smoke can get sucked back inside...lastly my 'air tight' wood stove in our home requires an oxygen [air] source from the exterior because our home is well sealed...perhaps the roof vent would be sufficient.
 
What Phil said plus firewood may be more difficult to source in the destination area than propane. Many areas do not want firewood being brought in from outside the area due to potential of invasive insects. And many areas do not allow local collecting of firewood.

Where do you store the ashcan? Hot embers in the ash could be an issue for CO and starting fires if stored outside the camper.

On the positive side, it is a dry heat and radiated heat seems better than just hot air.

Paul
 
PaulT said:
What Phil said plus firewood may be more difficult to source in the destination area than propane. Many areas do not want firewood being brought in from outside the area due to potential of invasive insects. And many areas do not allow local collecting of firewood.

Where do you store the ashcan? Hot embers in the ash could be an issue for CO and starting fires if stored outside the camper.

On the positive side, it is a dry heat and radiated heat seems better than just hot air.

Paul

If off the grid, not in town, wood to burn in that stove would be easy to find, not at a grocery store either ; even in the desert since not much is needed......heck a couple of presto logs [they still make them I assume] are clean to carry and would last a long time in a FWC...I have only seen wood stoves in old converted school buses; but why not a FWC is that fits your need?

Phil
 
Ben,

After really reading your post and viewing your photos on Flick-r and under your name..I must say that you are a very talented individual! With engineering and or machinist background I would guess [spare sheets of aluminum]...you basically took apart your Grandby and rebuilt it with up grades in what appears to be a meticulous fashion, not to mention the outstanding job you did on the wood stove and the mods to your truck...question: Cascades or RM or? Can't place the terrain.

Anyway, for me this was inspirational to get me motivated to make improvements or modifications that I can envision, of course within my limited skill range! As my old off road MC mentor used to say: "Phil you need to buy three of those; one to break, one to lose and one to get it right"...so true.

Thanks for this post.....Phil
 
Glad to see you following you own path .
I know from experience that a wood stove used
as you do is a calming and relaxing feeling.

As someone who who lived in a converted step van for a while in the
early 1970'S my wood stove was a part of our every day life!

Thanks for sharing.
Les,lqhikers
 
Loved seeing this post and install information. We also have a Cubic Mini Cub stove and have transferred it in and out of multiple vehicle/camper conversions we've done over the years.

We're just getting started on rehabbing a 1986 FWC Keystone model and are probably going to install the stove in this camper as well. We hadn't quite wrapped our head around where or how we wanted to install it, but already liked the same back corner by the door like you've chosen.

Cheers!
 
Nice job, Well thought out and very clean.
It looks like you covered the roof on your FWC with a aftermarket product. What did you use? Thanks.
 

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