I'll also add the lift panel hinges are pretty rough and the panels have basically broken all off because they are so rotted. I'm now thinking I'm going to rebuild those with the EMT system. I don't want to buy new hinges from ATC, the costs will add up for what I want. If I can cut costs on things its a bonus as I'm sure other things will go over. Plus if I need to rebuild lift the system or any future owner, this will be way easier to replicate. I wish I have a template to go off of. I need to do some research on this. I know Tim's build looks great. He mentioned the pipe does kinda crush the bed a little but I'm building the top lip of the camper up 2" so hopefully that will fix that issue.