FWC Camper Weight

[5444]

During my research to purchase a camper, I found it very frustrating how some manufacturers either did not post weights, or they did not post accurate weights for their products. So my hope is that this could become a pinned thread and everyone who already has a camper can post what model/options they have and state their total weight for members who are currently researching. I realize this will not be totally 100% accurate due to different brands and types of options used, but it could be a good rough estimate of what people could expect their camper to weigh. I'll start off with my calculations.

2012 Hawk base weight 750 lbs

jacks = 100 lbs

Waeco cr 80 = 60 lbs

Furnace = 25 lbs

Hot water/shower = 70 lbs full of water

DSI = 0 lbs

Fantastic Fan = 4 lbs

Roof vent = 3 lbs

Screen door = 5 lbs

front window = 2 lbs

roof rack = 5 lbs

rear steps = 4 lbs

Rear floods (fluorescent) - 3 lbs

Aux battery = 55 lbs

Extra Battery = 55 lbs

Gas struts = 5 lbs

LED Int. = 0 lbs

LED Ext. = 1 lbs

awning rail = 1 lbs

Rear wall solar plug = 1 lbs

full propane tank approx = 20 lbs

full 20 gallon fresh water tank approx = 160 lbs

Grand total 1329 lbs

It should be noted that the above options weights came from FWC.
I am also assuming the above options with a 0 are weighing in at less than a pound.

 

[rotti]

The day I picked my 2012 Hawk I took it to the scales and it was 1340 pounds dry, empty and jacks off.

Options: dual batteries, furnace, 110L compressor frig, Fanastic fan, second vent, arctic pac, fluorescent lights and screen door. I haven't reweighed fully loaded but I would think WELL over a ton.

These things aren't light when optioned out and loaded with people and gear.
Glad mine is on a 3/4 ton!

 

[pods8]

Yeah it all adds up, tack on driver/passenger weight, gasoline, gear, etc. and almost any vehicle under a 3/4 and larger truck will be over GVWR. Whether that bothers you at all is another story but don't kid yourself.

 

[buckland]

I have a 2011 Eagle on a 2001 4wd Tacoma, I added a 4th leaf spring and airbag suspension. I have weighed my camper twice on my way to the woods being a worry wart (probably for good reason). My truck has a 5100 GVWR and I came in at 5600 and 5700 .....but the truck handled great and I was loaded up. 2 canoes on top #80. I have furnace, no propane fridge but installed an Engle (40 lbs?) 2 vents (1 fantastic fan) 22 gallon water tank full (I still don't believe it is 22 gal.... I measured it and divided by 231"/gal and it just ain't so)spare jack, 3 cases of beer (long trip ),me, my wife and 70 lb dog. full 18 gal tank. food for 2 weeks, solar panel, 2 glass mat batteries, 5 gallons spare gas and 50 lbs of camping gear.
All I can say is we went through severe roads/stream crossings/beaver dams etc... truck did great... and I must say I have a new frame as well (recall) All in all I am beginning to feel confident (touch wood) that my truck can do it and probably a whole lot more. I have started saving for the day when I will get a Jeep truck (back in production this year 2013 with a small diesel and designed for where I go.
Best of luck and have FUN.... we are only here too short a time.

 

[Samo]

This is old info., but may help someone. I would ask for the weight as optioned on any new build.

From FWC

Appliances and Options
Options and Weight in Pounds (lbs.)
Extended Cab-Over Bed = 25 lbs.
Mechanical Camper Jacks (set of 4) = 100 lbs (removable)
Jack Brackets Only = 5 lbs.
Swing-Out Brackets (Set 2) = 6 lbs.
Refrigerator 3-Way (1.9 cu.ft.) = 39 lbs.
Refrigerator/Freezer 3-Way (3.0 cu.ft.) = 65 lbs.
Furnace = 25 lbs.
Hot Water / Outside Shower Package = 50 lbs.
Electric Water Pump = 2 lbs.
Power Roof Vent Fan = 4 lbs.
Screen Door = 5 lbs.
8’ Side Awning = 40 lbs.
Aluminum Boat/Luggage Rack = 5 lbs.
Yakima Roof Rack System = 10 - 15 lbs.
Rear Wall Steps = 4 lbs.
Solar Panel = 15 lbs.
Rear Flood Lights = 3 lbs.
Arctic Pack = 4 lbs.
Porta-Pottie = 8 lbs.
Accessory Cabinet = 5 lbs.
Auxiliary Battery System = 40 lbs.
1460 Churchill Downs Ave., Woodland, CA 95776
800-242-1442 FAX 530-666-1486

 

[mynxd]

I have a 2012 ATC Ocelot Shell optioned wth furnace, boat/luggage rack, fan, exterior led marker lights (6), king bed (76" x 77"), portta potti, and mechanical jacks. The marked weight is 700 lbs. I live too far from a scale to verify this weight exactly, but believe it is within 25lbs of being correct with the jacks off and the propane tank empty.

My truck is a 2010 Silverado 1500 ext. cab 4x4 with the 4.8l V8 engine, and HD trailering package. The marked net is 5400lbs, and gvwr is 7000lbs. I installed 2 batteries (Costco group 24 marine), battery separator, with 6 guage wiring in the truck, and use an engel mr40 as a freezer inside the cab. the batteries, separator, wiring, and engel weigh approximately 140 lbs. With the camper on the truck, and full gas and propane tanks, the truck weighed in at 6320 lbs. At this weight, I estimate we are between 100 lbs under gvwr to 200 lbs over when we travel, depending on gear we take, and how much water, beer, etc. is taken with us.

The truck handles the load well, but is noticed when on steep grades. The vehicles suspension is stock.

 

[pods8]

With the camper on the truck, and full gas and propane tanks, the truck weighed in at 6320 lbs.


I assume no one was in the truck for this? (5400lb truck, 200lb for gas/propane, 700lb for camper = 6300lb)

 

[mynxd]

Yes, we stepped out of the truck for the weigh in.

 

[Ramblinman]

Here is my info:

1998 Chev Z71 1500 w/o Tail gate - 5466 lbs (with out driver/ 1/2 Tank fuel) - 6600 GVWR

2010 Hawk Empty - No Water (Furnace, Hot Water, Outside Shower, Flood lights, Awning, Stove, 1 x Batt) - 1386 lbs

Truck/Camper Fully Loaded for a 4 Day 3 Night Excursion with 2 x German Shepherd, 1x Lady Friend (I don't dare ask how much she weighs.) = 7854lbs (with occupants and 1/2 tank fuel) (Approx 500lbs of that is human and canine)

I installed Ride Rites prior to mounting the camper they seem to do a great job. I have 50lbs in both bags. The truck seems to handle the load fine. I have always ran E rated tires. I am currently sporting Goodyear Silent Armors. The biggest difference I find is climbing hills. I am getting between 14 - 15 Mpg at around 110 - 115 Km/hr or 68-72 Mph. Took the truck down some logging roads with no issues. So far so good.

I would like to get as much out of this truck before I go to a 3/4 ton simply to save some $$$. Stopping has not been an issue ... yet.

 

[rotti]

I think the most dangerous issue with overloading is the tires.
That is what is going to give you the most grief and you are on the right track with the load range E.

 

[2wiresDave]

Here is my info:

1998 Chev Z71 1500 w/o Tail gate - 5466 lbs (with out driver/ 1/2 Tank fuel) - 6600 GVWR

2010 Hawk Empty - No Water (Furnace, Hot Water, Outside Shower, Flood lights, Awning, Stove, 1 x Batt) - 1386 lbs

Truck/Camper Fully Loaded for a 4 Day 3 Night Excursion with 2 x German Shepherd, 1x Lady Friend (I don't dare ask how much she weighs.) = 7854lbs (with occupants and 1/2 tank fuel) (Approx 500lbs of that is human and canine)

I installed Ride Rites prior to mounting the camper they seem to do a great job. I have 50lbs in both bags. The truck seems to handle the load fine. I have always ran E rated tires. I am currently sporting Goodyear Silent Armors. The biggest difference I find is climbing hills. I am getting between 14 - 15 Mpg at around 110 - 115 Km/hr or 68-72 Mph. Took the truck down some logging roads with no issues. So far so good.

I would like to get as much out of this truck before I go to a 3/4 ton simply to save some $$$. Stopping has not been an issue ... yet.
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Is that close to what the plate on the back of the camper states the weight is?

How do you like those tires?

 

[Casa Escarlata Robles Too]

OK you guys sucked me into this thread finally.
Just weighed my rig. full gas tank,plus camper 6226#. I have 02 Tundra Limited AC 4x4 TRD GVWR 6010/GAWR 7120.This is no people or food. I might be #6450 +/- ready to camp. This means I am about #400 over GVWR. This doesn't strike me as a problem,although I realize driving conditions will change. I just take all that into consideration.
The rig handles very will with the load. I have#50 in the rear tires and #40 In the front with ride rites at about #25 to make the truck level. I don't get any drift or sway at road speeds and it has a nice steering response and so far about 15 MPG.With lots of power.
I know the rigs limitations and mine so I feel comfortable and safe driving it.
Drive safe and cautious. Frank

 

[Ramblinman]

[/quote]
Is that close to what the plate on the back of the camper states the weight is?

How do you like those tires?
[/quote]

Lol! I am not close to the camper right now but I am pretty sure it says 740lbs. Lol! I will check when I get home and edit this post if req. (Just checked it does refer to the Standard Model with out options)

Tires: They are such a hard beast to pin down. I don't know what to say. I have driven with them in all conditions. I would describe them as being good at everything but not excellent at anything. Mud is mud and ice is ice. If I wanted an excellent tire for snow and ice I would likely get a good studded snow tire, and mud well, we know there are tires that are excellent in the mud, but hey are a different animal in there own right. I also do not like the noise that comes from aggressive tread on the highway. The reality is that 90% of the KM I put on is on the highway while enroute to my outdoor destination. In this regard I will say I have had no issues. The SA's are quiet, in heavy rain or snow they have always been good to me on highway conditions. If I remember correctly I went with the Silent Armor because the side walls are re enforced with kevlar (I think). The worst tire in my mind is the one that goes flat. When I am not driving on highway I am on logging roads and dirt rock trails. The Silent Armors have not let me down in that I have had no flats. I have grown up a lot over the years and I have come to the realization that if I do not have good traction in FWD I probably should not be there in the first place.

I have also used the Silent Armors on my work truck and really put them through the paces there. I was able to experience Good year Dura Tracs on the same truck. The Dura Tracs did well in the snow but did not feel as stable as the Silent Armors at high speed. Dura Tracs did not wear as well either.

I am in the market for new rubber. Silent armors are certainly in the list of contenders.

Sorry for the long winded post but I have been thinking about this a lot lately.

 

[5444]

Lots of good info here, thanks for posting.

 

[ETAV8R]

Lots of good info here, thanks for posting.

^This.

 

[SCUD]

Before ordering my Fleet shell for my Canyon, Jeff at American RV Tigard checked the MSO weight statement for one he had on the lot.

The factory told him it weighed 959#. When my unit arrives in October, I'll post it's data.

To my best recollection, the options on it were;
-mechanical jacks
-FIAMM passenger side awning & light
-furnace system (cabinet/thermostat/propane)
-basic 2-burner stove top
-powered roof vent fan
-4 exterior gas strut roof lift-assist
-privacy curtains

 

[ottorogers]

During my research to purchase a camper, I found it very frustrating how some manufacturers either did not post weights, or they did not post accurate weights for their products. So my hope is that this could become a pinned thread and everyone who already has a camper can post what model/options they have and state their total weight for members who are currently researching. I realize this will not be totally 100% accurate due to different brands and types of options used, but it could be a good rough estimate of what people could expect their camper to weigh. I'll start off with my calculations.

2012 Hawk base weight 750 lbs

jacks = 100 lbs

Waeco cr 80 = 60 lbs

Furnace = 25 lbs

Hot water/shower = 70 lbs full of water

DSI = 0 lbs

Fantastic Fan = 4 lbs

Roof vent = 3 lbs

Screen door = 5 lbs

front window = 2 lbs

roof rack = 5 lbs

rear steps = 4 lbs

Rear floods (fluorescent) - 3 lbs

Aux battery = 55 lbs

Extra Battery = 55 lbs

Gas struts = 5 lbs

LED Int. = 0 lbs

LED Ext. = 1 lbs

awning rail = 1 lbs

Rear wall solar plug = 1 lbs

full propane tank approx = 20 lbs

full 20 gallon fresh water tank approx = 160 lbs

Grand total 1329 lbs

It should be noted that the above options weights came from FWC.
I am also assuming the above options with a 0 are weighing in at less than a pound.

My 2015 Hawk is 1475 LBS from the factory, I have an awning, I am betting that weighs a lot

 

[Josh41]

Just adding to the knowledge:
2016 Fleet Shell
Only option is battery and lights.
Tag says 660lbs.
With Jacks and battery it weighs in at just under 800lbs.
So, minus jacks and battery, 660 is about right.
The gear all adds up fast.
I may or may not have weighed it at 6600lbs with passengers and a lot of gear, GVWR is 5815 on my Nissan Frontier.
I have E rated tires, extra leaf and airbags, handles great with over 10k miles so far.

 

[Mickey Bitsko]

Interesting, pretty much everyone with a full size 1/2 ton down to a small/midsize truck is over gvw.
I'm curious if, we were to be in an accident, whether we caused or not the insurance company could wiggle out of a claim.?

 

[camper rich]

My previous camper was a Shell model 1998 Ranger II. It weighed 530 lbs as I remember, I had it on a '98 Dodge Dakota, but by the time I had it loaded for a long Baja trip I was always over the 5,300 lb GVWR. I weighed it one time with loaded jugs of water and extra gas, loaded up like it would be for the final trip into a Baja camp on a rough road, and it was at 6,800 lbs. I had air bags which I later changed out to an extra leaf spring.

My new Grandby says 950 lbs on the tag, but when we took delivery they told us it was 1500+ lbs as equipped with Batwing awning, front dinette, hot water heater, shower and Cassette Toilet, furnace, propane tanks, screen door, roof vent, jacks, but no batteries, ( I added them later-2 lifeline 6 V = 130Lbs). It also has fantastic fan, 40# struts, and king size bed,

My Grandby is mounted on a '08 Dodge 2500 SB with gas engine with a GVWR of 8800 lbs. I weighed it the other day without the jacks, and no water in tank or water heater and I was at 8520. By the time I add my Yakima Rack and sea kayak + food and water I will still be over my GVWR. I have Timbrens front and rear and series E tires. I learned by overloading my Dakota that the next truck would be a 3/4 ton, and I still manage to slightly overload it.