Ordered my new Raven today

[BobM]

Thought I better take advantage of saving $300 before the price increase tomorrow. I ordered a new Raven for my new Ram 1500 Bighorn crew cab. I posted the option I got below so weigh in if I missed something since they give you 5 days to tweek the order. They only Charge $250 to deliver it to my area and will install here so that's nice since I live in So Cal. I'm having the solar plug installed in case I decide to get a panel later. He said it should take about 3~4 weeks so I can start the new year off in style. The Raven will be a little cramped but I'd rather have that than an extended beast to drive around. I've already installed the firestone coil spring airbags so I should be good to go and the total weight will be within the truck rating so no warranty issues later since I bought a lifetime warranty on the truck. I'll post photos when I get it.

Mechanical Camper Jacks
Solar Plug
Auxiliary Battery System
Extra Battery
Arctic Pack
Refrigerator - Waeco 80 liter
Porta Potti
Portable Entry Step
Furnace
Outside Shower/ Water Heater Pkg.
DSI Water Heater upgrade
Stereo - AM/FM/CD
Ready To Go Anywhere Package
Fan-Tastic Fan
L.E.D. Lights - Ceiling
Screen Door
Front Opening Window
Front Window Boot
Awning - Side Mount 8' Box
Auxiliary Side Awning Light
Rear Wall Steps
Flood Lights (Rear)

 

[SunMan]

Congrats! Looks like you have the bases covered option wise.

 

[Alley-Kat]

Not going to carry anything on the roof?
Kayaks, shovels, other light stuff?

Yakima Tracks?
Works with both Yakima and Thule base feet.

Not sure if there is any advantage of having the factory install them, warranty-wise, but, it is easy, and it's probably not that big a deal to DIY, just use the right kind of sealant as discussed in other threads.

 

[BobM]

Not going to carry anything on the roof?
Kayaks, shovels, other light stuff?

Yakima Tracks?
Works with both Yakima and Thule base feet.

Not sure if there is any advantage of having the factory install them, warranty-wise, but, it is easy, and it's probably not that big a deal to DIY, just use the right kind of sealant as discussed in other threads.


I don't see any immediate need to carry anything. I got the steps in case I need something later and they also make great ties downs for hammocks etc.

 

[ski3pin]

BobM, congrats on your new camper! Happy travels.

 

[leadsled9]

When I purchased my Hawk I too ordered the opening front window and the window boot.

The boot ended up wearing all of the paint off of the back window area of my Tundra....with all of the undulations and the dirt in there as abrasive....not a good idea at all.

When I had the Hawk installed on my new truck (Ford)....I left off the boot and have never regretted it.

Just a heads up.

Congrats on the new camper....you are going to love it!

 

[rotti]

I like your option choices but........
this is what I would do different, your needs, I'm sure, may differ.

I think I may go with the larger 110L frig, seems like there is never enough room (beer).
Portapoop, don't want to deal with that, I'll head for the woods.
Shower and water heater, I'll just use a bug sprayer type thing: duck shower
Radio, too expensive from FWC and I'd rather be outside.
LED lights, some others have said they prefer the fluorescents???
Awning, never really used mine much (sun feels good in the Rockies).
Flood lights, others have said they really didn't use them much, think I'd pass for $$.
Forget the boot! I too saw what it did to the paint.

Everything else is on my list. Keep us up to date on your camper.

 

[orion]

Congrats! You're gonna love it. I am consistently impressed every time I step in my Hawk at how well it is built, from the cabinetry, to clever little ideas that I'm sure evolved over time. These campers radiate quality. If you're close to Woodland, they're cool with you stopping by to snap pics on the production floor during the build process at various stages. It's a great way to document the build of your camper.

 

[InspectorLance]

I agree with leaving the roof racks out. Unless you really need then, its just another place to leak. Granted I am in a very wet area, and you are in a dryer area, but these are for traveling. I had Yakima racks on my 2001 Hawk, and aluminum racks on my 2006 Grandby, and they both leaked. Just today I removed the aluminum racks and put sealed screws in the holes.

Nice build list.

 

[Overland Hadley]

Congrats on the order!

If you think you would ever want to carry anything on the roof I would have the factory install the Thule/Yakima tracks. With the new one piece aluminum roof it is best to have the factory do the drilling.

Looking forward to photos once the camper is delivered.

 

[BobM]

Great comments everyone. I've sent an email to FWC to see if they solved the boot problem. If not I'll take that off. I'll look deeper into the lighting. I choose LED becasue the Raven is so small and the power consumption for LED is low. I'm sorry, the portapotti is a must, I'm not going out in the woods if it's freezing. Got the water heater for hot water inside, the shower is an added bonus. I thought about the larger refer but the Raven is so small, it would take up space and the smaller is close to the larger 3 way (2.83 cf vs 3 cf). I don't have a boat so the roof rack is not required. I will get a fold out hitch mount bike rack like the Surco
Regarding the stereo, I agree it's too expensive and wasn't going to get it and use a portable unit. What sold me was the fact I would get the camper prewired so I could upgrade later if I wanted. Also, the owner of my company recommended it and since we're a pro audio company, that's a pretty solid recommendation.

 

[Lighthawk]

Another congrats from me too, Bob. You'll be loving it and San Diego County has a lot of backcountry to explore without driving very far. I used to enjoy Anza-Borrego when I lived down there.

I like your build list with a few suggestions:
*Save $$$ on the arctic pack- you can do your own for a fraction of the cost
*I'm in the 'install tracks' camp. You'll be amazed at all the ways they come in handy
*I would skip the rear floods. A powerful handheld flashlight can do much more for you.
*The Surco rack looks cool, but you if want to maintain access to the door and save about $200+ you can hang bikes vertically off the back. See Bike mount thread

Once you get mounted up, post some pics!

 

[leadsled9]

I included the stereo in my option list and I use it all the time.

If you want to save some space.....just plug an mp3 player in as an auxiliary input. My mp3 player has around 150 cd's loaded into it. No need to haul them all over the place.



And like others have suggested add the roof tracks for future use. Let the experts drill the roof and then it's warrantied against leaks. Adding roof tracks later yourself would be a real pain as you wouldn't know where the frame structure is underneath that screwless roof.

 

[rotti]

BobM,
Here is a thread you might find interesting on the interior lighting options:
interior lighting

On the frig, did the larger model intrude on floor space or was it just taller? I haven't seen any pictures of these new 2 ways.

I too have been debating the roof tracks. Don't really need a roof rack but you never know.
A lot holes to punch in the roof is my concern.

 

[BobM]

BobM,
Here is a thread you might find interesting on the interior lighting options:
interior lighting

On the frig, did the larger model intrude on floor space or was it just taller? I haven't seen any pictures of these new 2 ways.

I too have been debating the roof tracks. Don't really need a roof rack but you never know.
A lot holes to punch in the roof is my concern.

I never made it up there to see the options. Fred just thought that the 80 was plenty for the Raven. It is 2.83 cu ft and will draw less power. This is not the first time I ordered something sight unseen. I leased my last VW Phaeton from a chicago dealer without looking at it, so hopefully I'll be just as pleased. Regarding roof racks, if I was an extream outdoorsman, I would get them. The only toys I would bring along are bikes. And I just wouldn't want to take stuff off the roof every time I wanted to pop it up. The whole reason I got the raven was I wanted to travel light.

 

[BobM]

Another congrats from me too, Bob. You'll be loving it and San Diego County has a lot of backcountry to explore without driving very far. I used to enjoy Anza-Borrego when I lived down there.

I like your build list with a few suggestions:
*Save $$$ on the arctic pack- you can do your own for a fraction of the cost
*I'm in the 'install tracks' camp. You'll be amazed at all the ways they come in handy
*I would skip the rear floods. A powerful handheld flashlight can do much more for you.
*The Surco rack looks cool, but you if want to maintain access to the door and save about $200+ you can hang bikes vertically off the back. See Bike mount thread

Once you get mounted up, post some pics!

The reason i like the surco is that the bikes swing out of the way so you do have access to the door. I've seen that topic on the rear rack option. My only issue with that is you have to store two dirty tires either in your camper or back seat.

 

[Alley-Kat]

I'm with you on the PorttiPotti and my wife agrees, so much so... that she wanted the deluxe version with the electric pump for the water flush (so, she bought it). If I were to use the forest, I'd still want to pack it out.

I've had one for over a year, many dumps and refills and am still operating on the original AA batteries (I think it takes 6 of them). Still a very strong flush of water.

It's the Thetford 465.

I tried buying it from Amazon, however, they TWICE sent me the "Marine" unit (Thetford 465 MSD) that doesn't have the same dump feature as the one for "RV's". The 465 MSD is designed for dockside pumpout hookup. In this specific area Amazon has the wrong warehouse code for the RV Thetford 465. If anyone goes this way, don't try buying it from Amazon, you don't know how many times I went around via emails with Amazon. Excellent on refunds and trying again, but when the warehouse code is wrong, the wearhouse code is wrong.

I got mine from Cabellas for $135 and free shipping, however, I don't see it on their web site anymore.

AdventureRV.net has it for $119.99, plus the shipping cost.

If the electric pump ever goes out, my wife will probably just buy another complete Thetford 465 as the electric pump is not really available from Thetford as a replacement part. I tried to purchase an extra for a backup from Thetford Replacement Parts division, just in case it goes out while boondocking, however, no such part according to the nice guy on the phone and we could both see it on their web site... go figure. Interestingly enough I can purchase the electric pump from an RV place in the UK and I do have friends that will send it me in the U.S. (the UK RV place doesn't ship to the U.S.), but add up the hassle for my friends, the extra shippng costs and the delay in time, probably not worth it.

The wife "unit" has been advised that we'll be pouring water from a cup to flush, if the electric pump goes out while boondocking and she is OK with that.

So far she is very happy not having to manually pump to flush, and when she is happy, I'm happy.

 

[leadsled9]

That's the same porta potti I use. I really like it because of the extra capacity! The holding tank is 5 gallons vs the 2 gallon capaicty of the standard porta potti. The 465 model is 3 or 4 inches taller too....which helps a bunch with comfort.

It just fits in the corner like it was custom made for it.

 

[billharr]

That's the same porta potti I use. I really like it because of the extra capacity! The holding tank is 5 gallons vs the 2 gallon capaicty of the standard porta potti. The 465 model is 3 or 4 inches taller too....which helps a bunch with comfort.

It just fits in the corner like it was custom made for it.

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Another 465 user here, works great.

 

[Walldiver]

Congrats on the new Raven. My wife and I agree the porti potty is a must. At this point in my life it is a must. I have to go once or twice in the middle of night, used to hate to have to dress up in a tent to go out by a tree in the middle of the chilly Sierra night. Tried it in my skivys only once and froze my tail off. We went with Thetford 365 instead of the 465, thought that having the manual flush you can control the flow of the flush for conserving the fresh water. Setting up and tearing down the potty is really not that much of a hassle and never smell any odors from it.