My wife and I bought a 1999 Phoenix "Coyote." I thought it was aluminum frame like FWC and ATC, but it is not. Current ones are. Not sure when they made the transition to aluminum. The dry weight is 695 lb, and great for our 2003 Tundra. Wish it was aluminum. Otherwise, it's working well for us. If I had it to do over again I would have held out for at FWC or ATC, but the wife was "on a mission." Will it last as long as an aluminum frame unit? Probably not. The good news is that the wife loathes four wheeling, so we won't be putting it to the test. Offroad, yes. Serious offroad, no. I think we'll be fine with what we've got... once I finish my tweaks.