Navy wants to quadruple land for training in Nevada

Smokecreek1

Smokecreek1

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Speaking of vandalism to Public Lands-just kidding! Is anyone keeping track of the effort under way to triple FNS (Fallon Navel Air Station) in size by taking 604,789 acres of Public Land. From the map I have seen it engulfs the rest of Dixie Valley up to the Clan Alpines and Edwards Creek Valley and way up north -sort of where "Ski and the lady" went thru a couple of years ago (Bob-to bad we did not follow their TR like we planned-hope it's not to late) .I guess they had a lot of people at the first EIS meeting in Fallon. Cows' or fighter jets-what a choice. I read about it in a navel news journal (USNI News)and it was on one of the local TV stations and I think it was in the Las Vegas paper too, but I'm surprised it's not being talked up more!

Smoke
 
Yep-what bothers me is that I spent allot of under grad time in the Edward Creek/Clan Alpine Range/East Gate/Middle Gate and there is allot of real good archaeology out there (that's not to say there are not lot's of great things out in our beloved open Nevada). My first excavation (as a once young man) as a ""boss-(very minor one no less) of a house structure and the resulting 1st publication was in Edwards Creek and this project sure is creeping close to that area.. The way they do these things takes some time (I've spent lot's of time dealing with things like this when I was in the BLM) so we need to keep an eye on what happens out there so maybe some of our Nevada members should follow the process and when they need letters, support or even better they start doing field trips it may be worth the drive over. Anyway, time to lake a look at your TR again!

Smoke
 
We need to meet up sometime in your old stomping grounds Mr. Smoke. :)

It will be a long drawn out process that bears watching. Thanks again Smoke.
 
Smokecreek1 said:
Speaking of vandalism to Public Lands-just kidding! Is anyone keeping track of the effort under way to triple FNS (Fallon Navel Air Station) in size by taking 604,789 acres of Public Land. From the map I have seen it engulfs the rest of Dixie Valley up to the Clan Alpines and Edwards Creek Valley and way up north -sort of where "Ski and the lady" went thru a couple of years ago (Bob-to bad we did not follow their TR like we planned-hope it's not to late) .I guess they had a lot of people at the first EIS meeting in Fallon. Cows' or fighter jets-what a choice. I read about it in a navel news journal (USNI News)and it was on one of the local TV stations and I think it was in the Las Vegas paper too, but I'm surprised it's not being talked up more!

Smoke
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As a Navy Vet I take your post as implying the "NAVY," not "navel," are not good stewards of our public land as misinformed. My experience and history show the NAVY spends a significant amount of $ on environmental protection versus the destructive practice of ranching or other development. While I encourage, and the Navy does as well, public review of plans I think you should remember that our armed forces require area to practice defending your freedom.


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Fallon Environmental Impact Statement www.frtceis.com. Don't always trust the press.

I would like to add some additional perspective. I live in Southern California where the few remaining undeveloped coastal areas are military installations. Camp Pendleton, Seal Beach Wep Station (now a wildlife wetlands preserve, Port Hueneme (another preserve), Vandenburg and the former Ft Ord are areas that have not had unbridled development and the military are good stewards. Something to consider as NV population grows


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Sorry-Fallen Naval Air Station. As an Army vet myself -though for only 4 years-I meant no disrespect toward you or the Navy. However as a federal employee (one of the first waves brought on board to implement all the new environmental laws passed during the late 60' and early 70's) of the BLM for 35 years, I spent a good part of career reminding upper management of their responsibility to heed the law. Any federal agency, whether in the Defense or Interior Dept, will do all it can to avoid things that slow their mission down and while today, generally speaking, they do a better job than before, it is also my duty-as a public land user and a American citizen-to insure that they use those lands properly. Over the years on this site we have pointed out many times that that getting involved with the land management process-whether the BLM or the Navy-is the only way we insure that we will have those lands to use and enjoy and it helps people to understand the difficulty of satisfying the law and all the public land users! Again I a sorry if you took my comments wrong!

Smoke
 
Smoke. Thanks for your service. Concur with your comments. I enjoy the discourse and discussions.


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While they may be benign stewards of public land, I am not really fond of being buzzed in really remote areas: Flook Lake in Hart Mountain Antelope Refuge, Lime Creek area south of Challis, ID and in the Modoc National Forest along USFS road 136. They broke the sound barrier and were flying away too low. Although my Standard Poodle was on a leash, he almost broke free and drug me a ways before I calmed him down. Where the he!! did they come from? Fallon?
 
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