New Tires Needed

The wife and I headed up to the cabin several days ago, a 2-1/2 hour trip up with 2 hours of freeway driving and the balance on a twisty mountain road. The Toyos were howling (48k miles on a 50k warranty) and the wife was not impressed, so on went some new shoes yesterday. As reported earlier, I’ve been wrestling with a choice between the latest Toyo AT3s or Michelin LTX M/S. After much hand wringing I bought the Michelins. I really liked the look and offroad performance of the Toyos but an objective analysis of my current driving habits with this truck (vs my former Dodge) really pointed to the Michelins. The VAST majority of miles are highway and my current offroad ventures are mainly FS roads, etc. Lowering tire pressures should make something like the Mojave Rd doable with these tires. And if I can pick up a bit of fuel efficiency…bonus. Thanks for all the input and I’ll report back.

Addendum: I ended up buying the tires at America’s Tire, which is where I originally bought the Toyos. They matched the discounted Costco price and had me outta there in about 45 minutes.
 
Mighty Dodge Ram said:
The wife and I headed up to the cabin several days ago, a 2-1/2 hour trip up with 2 hours of freeway driving and the balance on a twisty mountain road. The Toyos were howling (48k miles on a 50k warranty) and the wife was not impressed, so on went some new shoes yesterday. As reported earlier, I’ve been wrestling with a choice between the latest Toyo AT3s or Michelin LTX M/S. After much hand wringing I bought the Michelins. I really liked the look and offroad performance of the Toyos but an objective analysis of my current driving habits with this truck (vs my former Dodge) really pointed to the Michelins. The VAST majority of miles are highway and my current offroad ventures are mainly FS roads, etc. Lowering tire pressures should make something like the Mojave Rd doable with these tires. And if I can pick up a bit of fuel efficiency…bonus. Thanks for all the input and I’ll report back.

Addendum: I ended up buying the tires at America’s Tire, which is where I originally bought the Toyos. They matched the discounted Costco price and had me outta there in about 45 minutes.
Good thought process on what tire meets your needs.
 
have run Toyos and Michelin LTX on our 05 Tundra with Ocelot camper. got 60K on the LTX and had tread left. Toyos were good too. Running Cooper on the 21 Tundra with a Cougar and happy so far. Also, did have a set of KO2s inbetween the Toyos and Michelins on the 05 and they crapped out at 25K.
 
Taku said:
have run Toyos and Michelin LTX on our 05 Tundra with Ocelot camper. got 60K on the LTX and had tread left. Toyos were good too. Running Cooper on the 21 Tundra with a Cougar and happy so far. Also, did have a set of KO2s inbetween the Toyos and Michelins on the 05 and they crapped out at 25K.
not funny, but kind of funny how all our experiences are different... I got 37k on the LTX without a camper, hated them.. Cooper discoverer AT3 got about 40 k... super happy with the KO2 so far, about 15k on them and they still look brand new...
 
Just bought a set of Michelin LTX M/S for my Silverado. I always get great wear from Michelins
 
BBZ said:
not funny, but kind of funny how all our experiences are different... I got 37k on the LTX without a camper, hated them.. Cooper discoverer AT3 got about 40 k... super happy with the KO2 so far, about 15k on them and they still look brand new...
IMO the make and model of truck we drive, along with the balance (front or rear weighted) are a big factor in wear for a particular tire. Along with other factors like driving style (passive vs. aggressive), roads driven (winding, abrasive), . . .

I replaced Cooper A/T3s with Falken Wildpeak A/T2Ws 5500 miles ago. I got 49,704 miles out of the Coopers but one tire started cupping at ~28,000 miles. If I remember correctly (bad assumption) the Falkens are better in the snow.
 
Definitely. What works well on Tundra may not work well on big heavy diesel 3/4 ton P.U. or even a truck with stock suspension vs, an aftermarket suspension. So far I'm happy with my Falken Wildpeaks but I haven't really had them offroad yet. I could easily have talked myself into another set of Coopers.
 
The comments re: different experiences on different vehicles are spot on. My Dodge ran KO2s for awhile, great offroad but I could only get about 25k out of them. The Dodge came from the factory with Michelin LTXs on it (1996) and they may have been some of the worst tires I’ve ever driven in snow. Hopefully these new Defenders are better some 26 years later.

My needs and driving style have certainly changed over the years, that’s for sure!
 
We are getting ready for a big trip this summer to cross the Trans Labrador Highway as well as a bunch of more remote travel in Eastern Canada this summer.

The Toyo AT3’s I currently have on My F-350 are OK and I could easily get another 5-10K of street driving out of them but due to the nature of our route I decided to get new shoes…


O M G !
Tire prices have literally gone through the roof recently AND are getting scarce. The total price came out to over $1800 and TireRack is currently out of stock…Hopefully they’ll get them back in stock in a couple of weeks..
 
So I am gonna need new shoes for the truck. The OE is "P" rated Firestone tire and they are wearing on the outside edge. I'll have the alignment looked at but I don"t have any other symptoms (and I don't even have 20,000 miles on)

My camper is 765 lbs and I can't imagine me and the dog and food and water - and even the kayak - would exceed the 1150 max on the truck so I did not feel the need to add springs or airbags. The truck handles quite well and just about all of my driving is on winding, mountainous roads. I do dirt (like my driveway) and FS roads but gave up serious off-roading years ago. I want something that is decent on the highway and I need to be able to handle snow.

I'm thinking the Falken Wildpeak. There are also the Toyos.

Anything else I might be missing?
 
We put Continental E rated Terrain Contacts on out Tundra/Hawk. They handle well, are quiet on the highway, and after a year there is almost no wear (15,000 miles). I will do the same when these wear out. Have taken them into some fairly rough Death Valley roads and southern Utah back country. I don't worry about them at all.
 
I've bought 3 sets of Yokohama A/T-S' and I'd have a fourth and fifth set if the pandemic hadn't had it's way. The A/T-S Xtremes I'm not so fond of. They do everything that the regular A/T-S' do, they're just a little noisier in doing it. They both go about their job with little drama, and in the case of the regular A/T-S' they perform far past what we've come to expect from that mild of a tread design. Easily exceed the more aggressive BFG A/T's that I've used extensively.
 
We love the Yokohama Geolandar G015's. Quiet, great on Alberta mountain snow/ice, dry/wet BC highways and Utah gravel/FS/BLM roads. I'm on my 3 set.
 
I'd say that it depends on the size of the tire and the weight of the truck. For instance, the first set of tires that we had under our Cummins-Dodge 3/4t were Goodyear Duratrac's (not impressed!) in Load Range D. No issues with their ability to carry the weight of the truck.
Maybe a co-op in your area has a vehicle scale? I would try for individual axle weights. I would start there, something that I did not do. :)
 
So my choice is a "passenger" tire or a "light truck" tire which would be an "E" rated - except a Falken Wildpeak which is still a P tire but an XL load range.

On one forum someone said that "a P tire does not belong under a camper" but when that camper is well below the weight limit for the vehicle and the vehicle came with P tires???????

I'm just thinking that the LT E rated tires would be overkill (and would put a dent in my gas mileage?)
 

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