craig333
Riley's Human
Just saw them interviewing Juan Browne on CH3.
And So They Continue........................Fires
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And California just closed all its national forests for at least 2 weeks:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-30/officials-to-close-all-california-national-forests-a
I do feel like this may have been a tad too late.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-30/officials-to-close-all-california-national-forests-a
I do feel like this may have been a tad too late.
craig333
Riley's Human
Not too surprising that they decided to close the rest of the forests in CA.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-30/officials-to-close-all-california-national-forests-a
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-30/officials-to-close-all-california-national-forests-a
teledork
Pinyon Jay
These latest megafires were not caused by campers but I'll bet most people recall the video of people trapped by fire last year. I am not surprised by the closures.rando said:
but I also need to say: I have a lot of friends in Tahoe - skied Kirkwood for 25 years, lived there for 4, lived in Meyers for a couple of years, skied Alpine, friends in Tahoma - I have not heard from anyone - yet.
I'll be here crocheting to try to keep the anxiety at bay. Who wants a hat? (a sweater will take longer) I'm gonna be confined to quarters for a couple of weeks.
Great way to keep the anxiety at bay.
Hang in there TD. And stay safe.
Frank
Hang in there TD. And stay safe.
Frank
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We can see the column of the Caldor Fire from the Teds' home in Roseville. 
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I've heard random chatter of the cause of the Caldor Fire - I take that as just meaningless noise - but based on where it began, it is highly probably that it was started by recreational activity.teledork said:
Thanks for the map link.ski3pin said:
Frank
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and clarification on the separate closure of the Eldorado National Forest -rando said:
[SIZE=9pt]U.S. Forest Service [/SIZE]
[SIZE=9pt]Eldorado National Forest [/SIZE]
[SIZE=9pt]100 Forni Road [/SIZE]
[SIZE=9pt]Placerville, CA 95667 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=9pt]530-303-2412[/SIZE]
[SIZE=9pt]www.fs.usda.gov/eldorado[/SIZE]
[SIZE=36pt]News Release[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]For Immediate Release[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]August 31, 2021[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Public Inquiries: [/SIZE]
[SIZE=9pt]https://www.fs.usda.gov/main/r5/about-region/officeshttps://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001tiy...iRZ7Hunku2W_joI71boRTgp_qXWNEifRQ4nrTfqEOHw==[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Regional Hotline:[/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt] 707-562-9113[/SIZE]
[SIZE=9pt]SM.FS.R5inquiries@usda.govmailto:SM.FS.R5inquiries@usda.gov[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Media Contact[/SIZE]: [SIZE=9pt]SM.FS.MediaDeskR5@usda.govmailto:SM.FS.MediaDeskR5@usda.gov [/SIZE]
U.S. Forest Service Pacific West Region News Release
Emergency Closure Continues on the Eldorado National Forest as USDA Forest Service Temporarily Closes All other California National Forests for Public Safety
[SIZE=9pt]** This modified version of the regional news release issued yesterday clarifies the separate closure on the Eldorado National Forest. **[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]VALLEJO, Calif. - [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]To better provide public and firefighter safety due to the ongoing California wildfire crisis, USDA Forest Service Pacific Southwest Region is announcing a temporary closure of all National Forests in California. This closure will be in effect from Aug. 31, 2021 at 11:59 p.m. through September 17, 2021 at 11:59 p.m. This order does not affect the Humboldt-Toiyabe National Forest, which is not in the Pacific Southwest Region.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Please note, the Eldorado National Forest is not part of this new regional closure order. [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]The Eldorado National Forest has a separate closure order with a separate list of exemptions and is currently closed due to the Caldor Fire until Sept. 30. The emergency closure order for the Eldorado National Forest is Order [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]03-21-14https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001tiy...iRZ7Hunku2W_joI71boRTgp_qXWNEifRQ4nrTfqEOHw==[/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt].[/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt] You can find this order and links to fire information here:[/SIZE] [SIZE=9pt]https://www.fs.usda.gov/eldoradohttps://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001tiy...iRZ7Hunku2W_joI71boRTgp_qXWNEifRQ4nrTfqEOHw==[/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]“We do not take this decision lightly but this is the best choice for public safety,” said[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Regional Forester Jennifer Eberlien. “It is especially hard with the approaching Labor[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Day weekend, when so many people enjoy our national forests.”[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Factors that led to this decision include:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]1. By temporarily reducing the numbers of people on national forests, we hope to[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]minimize the likelihood that visitors could become trapped on National Forest[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]System lands during emergency circumstances.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]2. The closure order will also decrease the potential for new fire starts at a time of[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]extremely limited firefighting resources, and enhance firefighter and community[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]safety by limiting exposure that occurs in public evacuation situations, especially as[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]COVID-19 continues to impact human health and strain hospital resources.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]3. Any new fire starts are untenable because conditions state-wide have the potential[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]for large and rapid fire growth with a high risk to life and property. The Forest[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Service and our partners are absolutely doing all we can to fight these fires and will[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]continue to do so, but the conditions dictate the need for this region-wide closure[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]order.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]4. Forecasts show that conditions this season are trending the same or worse as we[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]move into late summer and fall.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]5. Although the potential for large fires and risk to life and property is not new, what is[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]different is that we are facing: (a) record level fuel and fire conditions; (b) fire behavior that is beyond the norm of our experience and models such as large, quick runs in the night; (c) significantly limited to no initial attack resources, suppression resources, and Incident Command Teams to combat new fire starts and new large fires; and (d) no predicted weather relief for an extended period of time into the late fall.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]The following persons are exempt from the new regional Order: [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]1. Persons with Forest Service Permit No. FS-7700-48 (Permit for Use of Roads, Trails, or Areas Restricted by Regulation or Order), specifically exempting them from this Order.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]2. Any Federal, State, or local officer, or member of an organized rescue or fire fighting force in the performance of an official duty.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]3. Persons with a Forest Service special use authorization for an electric transmission line, an oil or gas pipeline, communications site, or any other non-recreation special use.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]4. Persons with a Forest Service non-special-use written authorization to conduct non-recreational activities, such as harvesting timber or forest products, or grazing livestock.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]5. Owners or lessees of land, to the extent necessary to access their land.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]6. Residents, to the extent necessary to access their residences.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]7. Persons engaged in a business, trade, or occupation are not exempt from the prohibitions listed above, but may use National Forest System roads to the extent necessary to carry out their business, trade, or occupation.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]The only exemptions for the Eldorado National Forest emergency closure are as follows: [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]1. Persons with Forest Service Permit No. FS-7700-48 (Permit for Use of Roads, Trails, or Areas Restricted by Regulation or Order), specifically exempting them from this Order.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]2. Any Federal, State, or local officer, or member of an organized rescue or fire fighting force in the performance of an official duty.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]More than 6,800 wildfires have burned 1.7 million acres across all jurisdictions in California, and the National Wildfire Preparedness Level (PL) has been at PL5 since July 14, 2021, only the third time in the past 20 years that the nation has reached PL 5 by mid-July – indicating the highest level of wildland fire [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]activity.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]The Forest Service thanks our partners and the public for their cooperation and understanding of this extreme public safety and fire threat. Citizens with specific questions within their area should consult their local forest website or social media pages for more information.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=9pt]### [/SIZE]
teledork
Pinyon Jay
The first chatter I heard was lightning. I doubted that so I went looking for electrical transmission lines. According to the co-ordinates plugged into Google Earth the fire started part way up the canyon wall, at an elevation of about 3200 ft with no visible road beyond the top of the ridge several hundred feet above. I suppose the co-ordinates may not be precise.ski3pin said:
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75 air miles to the east of Roseville, the pyrocumulus clouds tower above South Lake Tahoe -ski3pin said:We can see the column of the Caldor Fire from the Teds' home in Roseville.
The retardant tankers returning from drops on the Caldor Fire pass over the Teds' home on their approach back to the fire base at McClellan Air Field.
Here's the DC-10 that just came over -
Another scary cloud, like the one we watched while camping at Union Res
in 2014,from the King fire in your neighborhood.
Frank
in 2014,from the King fire in your neighborhood.
Frank
craig333
Riley's Human
Quite a different view from Leek Springs today though someone is going to have to scrub the solar panels now!
It appears we got lucky, but it still has the potential to rekindle. This is just north of us…. Human caused
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We hope you continue to be lucky!
craig333
Riley's Human
I listen to the aerial armada on the radio. My big concern now is the fatigue I hear in their voices. Guys (and gals) haven't had a real break in months.
The dixie fire continues to amaze. Only thing that would surprise me now is if it doesn't make a million acres. While it looks (so far) like they've saved the campgrounds at Antelope Lake, I doubt we'll be able get in come June. Roads will be a mess for a long time.
The dixie fire continues to amaze. Only thing that would surprise me now is if it doesn't make a million acres. While it looks (so far) like they've saved the campgrounds at Antelope Lake, I doubt we'll be able get in come June. Roads will be a mess for a long time.
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Our evacuation order has been lifted (downgraded to evacuation warning). We're cooking the Teds a celebratory dinner this evening. The Teds are changing the locks on their house in the morning.
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